When did you use your gun defensively?

Look what happened to these washers and dryers that jumped out in front of us today!

They came from nowhere and they thought they had to drop on us but we seen em coming!

Washers and dryers got to get up pretty early in the morning to pull a fast one on us! And their little buddy the microwave wasn't getting frisky either!

 

I am sorry I missed your valid point.

Background checks prevent a felon from buying a gun from a gun dealer. That is a crime.

Background checks do not prevent a legally qualified person from buying a gun.

Guns on the street? It seems I will have to make my comments even simpler for you.

Thank you for being a caring citizen and helping to keep guns out of criminal hands....oh that's not you.

Thank you for listing other issues we can work on to get guns off the street.

NPR
@NPR

A Florida sheriff who encouraged homeowners to shoot intruders to "save the taxpayers money"
is being lambasted by state defense attorneys, who said his "wildly irresponsible" remarks could
cause needless loss of life.



npr.org
Lawyers say sheriff's remark about shooting home intruders was 'wildly irresponsible'
Santa Rosa, Florida, Sheriff Bob Johnson says homeowners should take shooting lessons
so they can ultimately "save the taxpayers money."

Woke media attack? Is that a catchphrase? Because the people with issues about it are defense attorneys.
And I can cherry pick too...Why it may be a bad thing.

 

Background checks don't keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

Do you support allowing the government to ignore the Constitution, the Bill or Rights or SCOTUS?

 

Uhh, I think the microwave was the dryer's baby....oopsy.

 

So we should get get rid of background checks so the local felonious gang banger can go to his gun store and buy the newest Glock G43X MOS with his drug money...Oh, and he'll have the 33 round extended magazine since he's there. No problem. Or maybe the paranoid schizophrenic would like an AR and multiple magazines because he sees signs the zombie apocalypse is coming? Yeah that works.
I don't support the current interpretation of the Constitution and I'm sure you don't support every interpretation either.

 

Sometimes it's fun to shoot guns just for the hell of it. Have you ever fired one?

I guarantee you, you would have fun, I'd even go so far as to say you would have a blast!

 

Did I say that? Given that the local felonious gangbanger can easily get that gun from a straw purchaser, theft or the black market, even FFL background checks don't prevent local felonious gangbangers from getting guns. Even if they were to try to get a gun from an FFl and fail the background check, no action is taken against that gangbanger. He's free to leave and go get a gun through illegal means.

There isn't a 33 round magazine for the Glock 43X MOS.

If he's been adjudicated to be mentally incompetent, the background check at the FFL will prevent that purchase.

Yes, the NFA and the Hughes Amendment should be unconstitutional.

 

Neither the 4473, nor the NICS check will prevent a paranoid schizophrenic from buying a gun in a gun store.

 

The current interpretation is the only interpretation possible. There is only one way to interpret, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" can only mean one thing.

 

Years ago, a friend and I were approached by what were obviously three illegal Latino males who were skulking around on his ranch property, located ~100 miles on this side of the border with Mexico. With firearms in our hands, we told them in 'Tex-Mex' to get out, or, get shot! They left immediately....

 

True.
"Well regulated" modifies "militia".
The right to keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd, is held by the people.
Not the militia.
Not the people in the militia.
The people.
Thus, "well-regulated militia" has no bearing on who holds the right to keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd.

 

The Bill of Rights enumerated the rights of the people, not the rights of the government.

 

You mean ignored.

No they don't.

oh something being a crime prevents it so there's never any murder or any drug use or anything that's illegal ever happening?

they don't prevent anything.

I want people to have guns.

 

You said: "Background checks don't keep guns out of the hands of criminals."

I gave you two examples where background checks would stop a criminal act. The gangbanger will have to go elsewhere at greater expense and more risk to get a new Glock 43x (with a 12 round magazine in blue?) or just make do with his other guns and adjudicated incompetent nut would be prevented from a criminal act. It's all good.

Your argument is like, prescription narcotics don't keep narcotics out of the hands of criminals, So what is the good of prescriptions? Without a need for scripts there'd be a line of junkies at Walgreens. It's just one piece of the puzzle to control the drug problem. Likewise background checks are only part of a solution of controlling illegal guns.

This is a fine example of when surveys are done for research that ask whether you have used a gun in self defense are not to be trusted.

 

You literally just contradicted yourself. If the gangbanger has to go somewhere else He Gets A Gun. No criminal act would be stopped. If he just makes do with his existing gun no criminal act would be stopped.

Yes, the use of prescriptions for medications like Oxy totally stopped the epidemics of death. That's why there are only 80,000 deaths a year from illegal pharmaceuticals.

Background checks can't and don't control illegal guns.

 

I'm just barely curious enough to ask why you think that my anecdote about using firearms in self-defense was one that is "not to be trusted"...? I said what I meant, and meant what I said... and, told the truth. It is interesting, though, to examine the hyperliberal mind to see how it makes its 'assessments' about what is 'true' and what is not....

 

There is a subtle difference between defensive use and offensive use. You were not using firearms because you were afraid for your safety. You were using them offensively to get the mojados moving. I have long noticed the inflexibility, the rigidity of the hyper-conservative mind

 

I presume that a great deal of criminal behavior is prevented by not wanting to get shot.

 

Should he have waited until they attacked him?

 

There is not a gun problem in America. There is a people problem. Essentially is it unchecked promiscuity, resulting in alarming numbers of out of wedlock births. These "families" have no Husbands/Fathers. So the welfare system supports them financially. But they have no guidance either. So the children grow up unfettered and mean, predating upon society by whatever means they can, including guns. Promiscuity and welfare is the problem. The reason leftists blame guns is because leftists promote promiscuity and welfare. So blaming guns allows them to continue to degrade society and pretend to care.

 

Ah, this old right-wing chestnut. Repeated long enough in right-wing echo chambers then it must be true. It also demonstrates the rigidity of the conservative mind. Could it be both, a gun problem and a people problem? Take the UK for example. Their poverty rate is 22%, twice the US, so they have twice as many on "welfare"(blame the left), with the same problems, minorities making babies out of wedlock, drugs, gangs, crime, etc. What they don't have is easy access to guns. Our per capita homicide rate is 4 times the UK. If you handed out guns in the UK to those in poverty, I'm sure they could catch up to our homicide rate or die trying. In the US we make it easy to kill someone. Have a tool designed to efficiently kill another human available to any dumbass that wants one and we have a lot of those people.

 

Our homicide rate for most of the 20th century was 10 times that of the UK. What happened?

 

The goal is a free society of upright citizens. Not an unarmed prison filled with killers, rapists, and thieves. Similar is the path to heaven as opposed to hell. What you propose isn't a solution to anything unless the destruction of society and the fattening of hell is the goal. Turning out the lights because you don't like what you see, solves nothing. God didn't make America free, just for us to turn around and enslave ourselves to faithlessness.

 

The demographics are different. Access to weapons had nothing to do with it. That being said, the UK's murder rate is going up and they have the third highest overall crime rate in the world. Their rape rate increased 13% in 2021.

But hey! They can get abortion. Right?

 

I would like to add that includes ghost guns. Serial numbers only matter to governments who use them to keep track of guns in the hopes of eventual confiscation.
The criminal couldn’t care less. Assuming the gun is made right and doesn’t blow up in my face, serial numbers don’t matter, either.

BTW, does anyone know when they started and why?