When Gentrification happens

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  1. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

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    Most might think Gentrification is okay. That it results in higher City value and worth. Unfortunately, this is not true.

    For a short time, after all the past residents are moved out and new residents move in, and after the monies for 'sprucing' up the place is spent and residents are willing to pay the new 'prices', there comes a time when the 'normal' begins to set back in. Crime begins to reenter, drugs, music, the rowdy, etc.

    But because the new residents are unfamiliar with the 'statistics' of that area, they are unsure how to do deal with the 'local' crime. They expect their life to be as it was in their own home town when they were free to do as they pleased using their monies. But after moving into a Gentrified place with the same monies, they expect that their monies is or should provide for the same kind of 'fun' and 'enjoyment' and 'comfortableness' it did in their own home town. Sure the 'other kinds' might not be around and sure the 'similar kinds' might move in, but sooner than later, the city will be known for exorbitant prices with alot less future hopefuls of wanting to move into that city.

    Let's take Honolulu Hawaii for an example.

    Honolulu is the 3rd most expensive city to live in in the U.S. but the quality of life, as far as jobs, earning potential, family possibilities, to the cost of living in it is not up the the standards of other 5th or 6th or 10th or 15th most expensive cities to live in.

    But these costs excite many to want to relocate into a city where $$ is flashed and the climate seems good. However when you take a look at all the hopeful residents that moved to Hawaii for a possible future life in it, and when you see how many have returned back to their home broken hearted and a bit more lonely, it goes to show that even when Gentrification occurs, the monies with the similar monies holding people will not hinder the 'normal' to set back in.

    I don't think I need to explain that 'normal' does not mean crime. Normal means normal. Family, wholesomeness, the regular.
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    Besides, what 'family' is going to sell their home to purchase another in a Gentrified area? This sort of thing is usually NOT done by parents who own homes and who are raising or providing for family.


    Wise parents do not want to purchase 'UP' in home prices if their home is doing just fine the way it is.

    And what youth wants to pay 3000 dollars a month in rent for a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with a window that opens up to the ordinary?


    3000 dollars is a mortgage payment on a down up to a multi million dollar home.

    The only difference is that the home will be owned eventually rather than a need to continue to pay monthly rent.
     
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    Are these youths trying/attempting to play 'grown up' without having the necessary mental and emotional and psychological tools to actually be a success at 'adult' living?


    An analogy which might fit could be this:

    A 'simple' one trying to live a 'complicated' life. Simple persons sometimes have a difficult time writing out bill payments. And if they have a difficult time writing out bill payments, how much more difficult could getting a professional career be for them; as far as education and tests and daily 'student' life.

    Being 'simple' could be okay if there is a person who is willing to take care of that person.. But in that case, the other person would not be 'simple'.


    Another word for simple could be 'lazy'. Lazy inwardly, not necessarily outwardly.


    Luke 23:26 "... cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also."

    In other words, after eating is finished, cleaning the inside of the cup or platter will allow for the vessel to be reused.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good thread topic ...wrong forum as usual.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    In California there's a rather unusual phenomena of neigbourhoods turning bad and prices going up at the same time.
    The proportion of renters vs. homeowners goes up, but part of that is simply because people cannot afford to buy the homes anymore, and then you have large extended families packing into a home. So that also drives rents up.

    The people living in the neighborhood are now poor, but it's housing poor. Most of their income is siphoned off going towards the high cost of housing. So it's not necessarily the conventional type of poverty.

    There's been a massive middle class flight out of some of these neighborhoods.
     
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    From my observations of cities here in the Northeast cities like Boston where most of the in city neighborhoods are now gentrified and extremely expensive, they are by and large inhabited by very wealthy older people who do not send children to schools because their children are adults out on their own.Because of this influx of older people they do not need to build new schools or hire as many teachers as they once did.These now very wealthy neighborhoods quickly squeeze out the remaining middle class and any poor who have somehow to hang in there.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Is it really an influx of older people, or is it just the older middle aged moving up?

    Maybe these old people aren't coming from somewhere else but are just upper middle class people getting older and wealthier.

    That does still beg the question why young middle aged families are being crowded out. Could it be that there were a lot of younger people without families who moved to this area years ago, and now they have just gotten older and wealthier?

    I do agree with you that there are very few families with children in many of these neighborhoods in the Northeast.
     
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