Where America is headed...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Derideo_Te, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you need to improve your English, because that is not what you said.

    Seventy year olds today are much more conservative than twenty year olds in 1969 and they are the same group of people.
     
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    Need to stick TRUMP stickers on them...
     
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    F that....

    MSGA....
     
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    Not the Democratic Party of JFK that's for sure.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    What a load of bovine excrement!

    You need to improve your READING COMPREHENSION because this is what you FAILED to grasp!

    This is SUBSTANTIATED by recent a PEW Survey.

    https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2019/02/04/age-gap-environmental-politics/

    The Boomers who SUPPORTED the EPA and a clean environment in their 20's STILL support the EPA and a clean environment in their 70's!

    The Boomers who OPPOSED those issues STILL oppose them but they were ALWAYS a MINORITY and STILL are a MINORITY.

    Next time try reading all the way to the END of the post before jumping to ERRONEOUS conclusions.
     
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    In other words, the young are sold a can of magic beans, and by the time they realise this it's too late to change and the next generation has already been sold the next batch of magic beans.

    Also, most nations have become more pro-market in recent decades, not less. Is this an abberation or what?

    I agree they have become more permissive as far as social policy goes, but permissive social policy is not something the left owns.
     
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    Nothing like posting a chart that doesn’t label the axes.
     
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    None of those compare the same group as they age with specific numbers. Isolated opinions do not define the entire person. I have become more liberal towards environmental and social issues, but I have become more conservative fiscally. Mixes change, but I have become more conservative overall.

    For example. Compare percent of twenty year olds who leaned liberal in 1969 versus percent of seventy year olds who lean liberal on 2019.
     
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    There is a chart that does show that liberalism is at an all time high. Since the percentage of elderly in the population has also increased this would appear to suggest that older people are on average becoming more liberal. Doe not of course provide absolute proof.
     
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    That is not what I am talking about. On average, a person who was liberal in 1969 at age twenty is more apt to become more conservative in 2019 at age seventy. Overall, we might tend to be more liberal, but people tend to become more conservative as they age.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your personal anecdotal experience is irrelevant.

    Since I have already SUBSTANTIATED my position the ONUS now rests entirely on YOU to PROVE me wrong!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That fallacy has been debunked since it is a MISPERCEPTION.

    Society becomes more liberal over time which is what creates this PERCEPTION but the reality is that whatever liberal ideas were embraced when young are NOT going to change as you age. People still support the liberal concepts of their youth as they grow older.
     
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    My personal experiences are very relevant. I seriously doubt that I am the only person whose interests have changed over the past fifty years.
    I am not obligated to prove anything. Just picking a few examples does not prove anything because peoples interests change.
     
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    Society might have generally become more liberal, but in no way does that mean that an individual becomes more liberal as he ages.
     
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    Yep, that happens right up to the point society fails.

    Leftism is like natures self-destruct mechanism.
     
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    If you are looking for the reason for GOP attempts to suppress the vote, put the citizenship question in the census, and refuse to entertain a compromise on a path to citizenship, look no further than.................

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    As usual you are incapable of either disproving the FACTS that I provided or substantiating your own BASELESS assumptions again.
     
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    Asinine STRAWMAN because NOWHERE did I make any such claim.
     
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    IRONIC given that your own rightism white nationalist society is already in self-destruct mode and FAILING as we speak.
     
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    :applause:

    Every election going forward will show a smaller and smaller percentage of Boomers participating.
     
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    Millennials are not going to put up with the hypocrisy seen in the current evangelicals
     
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    Yup, they are also not happy campers dealing with massive college loan debt loads. They want change and won't stop until it happens.
     
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    Good. That means you accept my contention that people tend to become more conservative as they get older and wiser.
     
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    :roflol:

    Why would anyone "accept" your BASELESS BOVINE EXCREMENT allegations that you are utterly incapable of substantiating?
     
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    Class of 1961 here, today's political/economic state is deplorable at best. Where the dying middle class gives way to a gentrification of the US by the increasing wealth of the upper classes and the ever increasing pools of the poorer people shut out by corporate greed which runs our govts. to their advantage. I see strife and revolution.
    Better is bread with a happy heart than wealth with vexation-Amenemope, Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh
     
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