"Whining" And Analysis

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    There are many people who see the artistic type as whiney. In fact anyone is capable of being whiney if their expectations have been disappointed. I have known well-off Reagan conservatives who were very whiney when Clinton was President.

    In some cases, what we are seeing is the behavior of people who have been disappointed. What they are good at is not valued in society, and that gives them a lot to whine about. In other cases we see as whining things that are not. One of the worst errors to that effect that I've seen has been portraying analysis – especially social analysis – as whining. It is no such thing. It is analysis. For a problem to be solved it first has to be seen; and if it is not seen then it has no chance of being solved.

    To portray analysis as whining is therefore to prevent problems from being solved. And that makes the world worse for everyone, giving people still more to whine about for real.

    The bottom line is that anyone can get whiney, including even the people who think themselves go-getters. That was the case for example for Republicans at the university that I attended in 1990s. They kept whining and whining. Then they went on claiming that whining is for liberal losers. Yet here they were supposedly tough and strong Republicans whining like a little bitch.

    Are there many artistic types who are whiney? I am sure that they are; but they are not the only people who whine. And in any number of cases what they are actually doing is not whining but showing problems that need to be solved. Seeing a problem is the first step toward solving it. Portraying that process as whining prevents problems from being solved. And that is not a responsible or a rightful stance.

    In my case, I do not whine at all. I know that my life has been a privileged one. I do however see all sorts of problems that need to be addressed. That is not whining, it is analysis. And analysis is necessary for all informed action.

    So then there are some people who whine for justifiable reasons; and there are people who get painting as whining when they are in fact doing something far different. And then of course there are people who just whine. It is important to figure out who is doing what and for what reason. Then one can confront people who are doing the wrong thing and apply those who are doing the right thing for rightful ends.
     
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    Would all of this apply to the democrats after the recent elections that drive them to obstruct anything that the republicans attempt?
     
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    As much as when republicans lost previous elections, and did the same thing.
     
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    Yet you fail to mention when the democrats do it. Displaying a certain bias there, wouldn't you say?
     
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    I was not limiting the phenomenon to Republicans, only showing that Republicans are just as guilty of this as are the Democrats. Regarding the behavior of Democrats in Congress, it was preceded by similar behavior of the Republicans, who used the filibuster over 400 times to block anything that Obama tried to do.
     
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    You claim otherwise but still insist that everything is the fault of the republicans. It puts to doubt your entire premise and shows just how biased you are.
     
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    no. I was pointing out it's hypocritical to only bitch when democrats do it, by pointing out republicans are no different.
     
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    Yet you accept and support when democrats do it. Got you.
     
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    Is there a reason you need to make **** up and attribute it to me?
     
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    I don't make it up, merely quote your posts. If you deny them, say so or change the method of expressing yourself.

    Perhaps your tendency to point out only one party would be a hint to you.
     
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    So, you made up **** and attribute it to me.

    Please stop
     
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    Did you ever learn to read? I know that you never learned to reason or tell the complete truth as evidenced by your posts.

    BTW, it is noted that you consider anything pointed out to you as biased, you consider it to be s***. Further proof of your insane bias.
     
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    So, you continue to make **** up and pretend I said it?
     
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    Hey fool, how am I "pretending" when I post direct quotes from you as proof? Your new favorite word, ****, seems to be all you have for a brain.
     
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    Basically, then, you are asserting that just "conservatives" and "Republicans" (who tend to overlap) are guilty of "whining."

    Does that pretty well sum up what you are attempting to say?
     
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    Was this whole post designed to reinforce your own opinion that you are artistic?
     

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