Whistleblower Has Three Potential Biases Against Trump

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes. This entire charade depends upon "interpretation".
     
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    Nope. Impeachment is a political process, not a political one. Any crimes Trump may have committed can't be prosecuted through this process. In turn, the same rules don't apply to impeachment as they do in criminal prosecutions. That's all I'm saying and have ever said. This is another example of your belief clouding your reality.

    The reality is this, Trump is likely to be impeached, far less likely to be removed from office, and moderately likely to lose the 2020 election. He could wind up getting re-elected for sure. But this isn't making it easier for him. The man's shortcoming is he thinks he has a hidden or silent majority that will come to his rescue. He doesn't. He barely won in 2016, that's the reality of it. A few key counties went his way due to large amounts of undecided voters either not liking Hillary or wanting to test out a so called "non-politician" politician. That situation doesn't exist in 2020 and he hasn't adapted to the change yet. He sees impeachment as what happened to Bill Clinton, yet he's going about it like Nixon.
     
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    Did you get that from a crystal ball or Ouija board?
     
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    What was the Quid Pro Quo discussed on the phone? Please be specific.
     
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    Why you want cooperation and want to enforce it with punitive measures
     
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    You understand being a good American ? Being a good POTUS ? Following the Constitution as in not blocking or following Supeo handed out from the house of reps ? That is a violation of such...

    Who do you work for on the right ? Which think tank ? Because no AMERICAN should support this large blowhard who is uneducated on the constitution ? Besides the thousands of lies, calling out Article 2 as if it gives him Superior power.
    Sad that anyone could call themselves an American and back this corrupt regime.
    Pathetic

    Plus come here and post over 86 thousand messages approving a communist regime pretending to be a democratic supporter.
     
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    And they need to explain because you think congressional subpoenas are new?
     
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    Wrong again. Not the entire charade. One time in a phone conversation the word 'though' needed to be interpreted but there is much more solid evidence in this CHARADE than just that one word. Your golden shower pervert has been busted, get over it.
     
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    Oh so now all the dems need is innuendo. Stalin would be very happy
     
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    At this point it's clear that the alleged WB worked with Shifty to create a "complaint" the "complaint" clearly doesn't match the transcript that the President swiftly made public, and now, it's obviously clear that Volker's testimony destroyed Shifty's false narrative and he is withholding the transcript of his testimony so that he can continue down this line of "parody" with the clear blessing of Nancy P who is refusing to have an actual vote for an inquiry because then it would be transparent, and destroy their hopes to abuse their power and interfere with the 2020 election cycle
     
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    You very much are the topic. You see the only reason their background matters is to someone who doesn't want to accept the reality placed in front of them. Trump wanted Biden investigated by Ukraine, and he made a veiled attempt to leverage that happening. To ignore this is to ignore who Trump is, a real estate guy who spent years operating in New York and New Jersey utilizing similar tactics. And bragging about them. So if you want me to now believe that suddenly the man who doesn't care about anything but himself is now acting in the best interests of every person in the United States, then you are asking me to ignore a lot of reality. And I won't do that.

    Again, if the whistleblower was solely politically motivated, then why would Pelosi and Schiff risk their majority in congress on such a foolish thing? They wouldn't. Call them whatever names you like, but if they were as stupid and foolish as you think they would have impeached long ago for far less than this.

    Also, think about Clinton and Gingrich. A lot of people say Gingrich was wrong to impeach, but he didn't have a choice. He discovered via special prosecutor than the president lied under oath. Was it a lie worth removing him from office? Clearly no, but if Newt hadn't impeached, then what good is Congressional oversight of the executive branch? That's a hallmark of our republic that Newt believed in so much that before the trial even ended and it was obvious he would "lose," he was ready to step down as speaker. That and he had other personal political issues, but only a fool would have tried to remain speaker after that and Gingrich knew what he had to do for his party and country even at potential personal loss. So the same is true here. Trump tried to leverage a foreign country for personal, political gain. It's not in dispute, he admitted he did it and then asked China to do the same. What you must ask yourself is it worth "winning" in order to erode our nation's ideals? Because if Trump gets away with this, it will only be abused by the next president and that won't likely be a republican.

    So think about the bigger picture for a change. I know it's not as fun as going on the internet and trying to insult people who disagree with you, but it's the mentally healthier thing to do.
     
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    Read post # 111
     
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    Well, when or if that comes out, then would matter. Untell it does, it doesn't matter.
     
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    Ok.... and? IT doesn't change anything. Cold hard facts mean things. You don't have it.
     
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    Your correct, but the right wing shills for the republican think tanks need to support trump thru thick and thin. No matter what he does, they are in so deep now they cant say no. For them this is about flipping the country and turning it into a communist state led by the republican. I am sure the think tanks, kudlow, trump, the FED and all the crooks running the whitehouse have a night of long nights planned for the democrats and all those supporting democracy.

    This is their next step as all they do now is LIE ! Then when called out on each LIE they state, "it isnt a lie" it is just my view of such.
    Only way to fix it is to have them removed, reach out to people and tell them the truth.
     
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    ok, so again nothing.
     
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    What do the Jocks at ESPN know about politics?
     
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    The Obama administration stonewalled about Fast and Furious, Holder even to a contempt of Congress for the team to keep it secret. That was OK with you at the time. Seems hypocritical to me.
     
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    You won't get an answer, as I asked the same question.
     
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    What does Obama Admin. have to do with this ? Your losing here ? Obama sucked too because he also allowed the FED to play their games, now dumping billions more into Commercial banks and NOT calling it QE, which it is. Destroying our finance system and the underlying dollar within time.
    They will take THEIR money and run, leave it for the next admin to deal with and so on.
    All the rich are crooks, the FED is literally breaking the law, and we do nothing because so many politicians play along, worse is that the republicans HELP it !
     
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    Guess Republicans are better people since by those standards Obama should have been impeached for wasting trillions of dollars and willingly lying about the value and nature of its purpose. Like I mentioned in other threads this impeachment now sets a standard for impeaching hearings of every president from now on simply because you dislike him and disagree with a vote....which is almost EXACTLY what Democrats said Trump was going to do when he lost in 2016. And look what happened instead? Democrats have been arguing over the validly of the election and every action Trump is taken since he entered office. The hypocrisy is astounding.

    All it does is make Democrats look like petty insane people. Keep pushing forward and it’ll push logical people away. Their base is obviously illogical and completely irrational already so it’s hard to imagine who they’re trying to woo over. :)

    There just isn’t any there, there. You can’t impeach over what you think someone meant or what you think you heard or read. It sets a very dangerous precedent moving forward.
     
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    Stalin and the founders lol
     
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    Only if you think rape is two people eagerly having sex over and over again :) I’m more referring to the concept of forcing someone to do something. Can’t really call it rape when nobody is being forced into sex. Can’t call it quid pro quo when no one is forcing the other party to do something against their will.

    Biden committed it. Trump did not.
     
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    No you dont and their bias has much to do with whether or not they broke laws, this has just started, the left has a tendency to count their chickens waaay to soon
    Just like you did all during Mueller when the left claimed trump wouldnt be potus 6 months, he would be arrested, impeached, he would resign

    I prefer to wait till the end result
     
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    Heh, well thats that then, because I always believe whatever a lawyer for someone says. I even believe everything Avenatti told us and tells us as the gospel truth after all hes a lawyer :)
     

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