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White Nationalists and Patriotism and the RACIST Label

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Gatewood, Oct 18, 2018.

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  1. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    Trotksy published What is National Socialism in June 1933.

    Trotsky in Chapter 1 The Peculiarities of Russia's Development of The History of the Russian Revolution (1930)

     
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  2. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    You're implying the re emergence of European ethnic nationalism isn't a defensive movement of people who don't want to become ethnic racial minorities in their own countries having no justification whatsoever and I'll remind you of several instances in history where minorities are swallowed up in absorption by much larger populations into extinction. So no, today's European ethnic nationalism is no different from the early proponents of Zionism at all.

    Do you really think there will be no consequences of former majority populations turned into new minorities? Yes, or no? Multiracial democracy will destroy itself, it's a given.

    Cultural marxism is so pervasive it has even wormed its way into conservative political thought concerning race, culture, and nationalism so no my comment isn't completely un-ordinary at all.

    Oh, so there are useful social constructs then? Good I'm glad you admitted that. Now that we got that out of the way.....


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  4. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    I said he was the first to politicize the word especially in regards to the left. Sure, the word has origins elsewhere but until he used it for the purposes of leftist political discourse it had other meanings.
     
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    Hanging a flag on your house used to be the norm. It certainly wasn’t seen in a negative light. Not anymore. You will be vilified or given the stink eye now. Basically supporting your own country is bad. But fly a Mexican flag and leftists will think nothing of it.

    That is WRONG on every level!!!!

    If you read what Obama said about immigration in 05 before he was elected, people would call him a racist national. That’s how far we’ve sunk. Why not. See it instead. Must learn English???? What’s that?

     
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    A few months ago on this board, some leftist (I can't remember who) made a thread about Trump supporters being White Nationalists, and the thread was basically, "Which of you white nationalists will admit to being white nationalists?" I made the comment that I am a nationalist, as opposed to a globalist, and my skin happens to be white. This met his criteria, and I am not even exaggerating. Any excuse to apply the label.
     
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    Are you a white nationalist?
     
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    You will not be vilified by hanging the American flag. First I hear of that. Maybe where you live. And I agree that those who live here should learn English. Why not? Makes life easier.
     
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    Total crock of crap.
     
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    One often sees such pathetic attempts at conflating racism/bigotry with "patriotism". It makes for a great emotional "poor us" snowflake bumpersticker amongst the racists and bigots, especially on the far right.

    Patriots are not "nationalists". Patriotism is love of country. Nationalism is "America First" and in your case "white america firstest".

    Most patriots view fascists and white nationalists and rabid racists as antithetical to the values, rights and freedoms upon which their nation was founded on. Guess ya missed that.
     
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    Where do these dingalings come up with this gibberish? Probably from Trump.
     
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    Whatever...
     
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    Limbaugh, Hannity, Gingrich, who have been spoon fed their material from well heeled think tanks. It has been a brilliant propaganda campaign which has helped the top 1% to triple their share of the national wealth in the past three decades........These new ditto head, Hannitized phony conservative dupes have been trained like monkeys to spout this crap since the late 1980s and vote for whores who have been picking their pockets and selling out to international corporations and bank swindlers.
     
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    now that's a criminal thought.
     
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    The parrots be tiresome.
     
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    The Left are the ones calling patriotic Whites, White Nationalists. They aren't calling themselves that and as you see this group is not limited to Whites.
     
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    Leon Trotsky was a great leader.

    He was Ultraliberal -- he supported Socialism.

    He was Ultraconservative -- he was #1 opponent of the Mainstream Left which was Joseph Stalin's government. Progressive Identity Politics in 1920s and 1930s were very anti-Semitic.
     
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    I must have hit a nerve with that nugget of truth.
     
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  19. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he squawked.
     
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  20. Gatewood

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    Well we certainly don't have to ask if you are a racist.
     
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  21. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    Leftists being globalists and internationalists by nature lump all nationalists as white nationalists or white supremacists because of their inherent hatred of nationalism. [They all want their global democratic socialism don't you know that almost resembles global communism.]

    They don't understand that there are many different kinds of nationalist ideologies and beliefs out there where all are not the same or equal. They confuse ultra ethnic nationalism with cosmopolitan civic nationalism not understanding that both schools of thought are the total opposite of one another. Libertarians and neo conservatives lean more towards cosmopolitan civic nationalism.

    As for me I am a ultra ethnic nationalist [not to be confused with civic cosmopolitan nationalism] and there's a reason why I reject civic cosmopolitan nationalism.

    Leftists know the difference between ultra ethnic nationalism and cosmopolitan civic nationalism before you make fools out of yourselves.

    Here's the ultra ethnic nationalist critique of civic cosmopolitan nationalism....

     
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    Yes, because they're globalists and internationalists that thoroughly reject all forms of nationalism no matter what kind it is.
     
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    Are you some kind of secret Trotskyist or something?
     
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    I support New England Patriots.Gronk is my favourite player.Does that make me a White patriot or a White nationalist?By the way, ,anyone supporting or showing sympathy for antifa is a 5th columnist.Regardless of colour.
     
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    Well, Well. Just askin'. I am bigoted against white nationalists and neo-nazis
    if you really want to know. The white nationalists of which I speak are those who
    denigrate minorities, Jews, people of color, and foreigners (arbitrarily referring to them as rapists and criminals). You?
     
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