Who are the proud boys

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  1. Josephwalker

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    I've never heard of this group before but they were in the news this morning in clashes with ANTIFA in both Portland Oregon and NYC. The media labeled them an alt right racist group so I did a little research on them and as I suspected the media is once again reporting fake news.

    "The basic tenet of the group is that we are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” Like Archie Bunker, we long for the days when “girls were girls and men were men.” This wasn’t controversial even twenty years ago, but being proud of Western culture today is like being a crippled, black, lesbian communist in 1953.

    The group started in the fall after congregating on Compound Media and laughing at the politically correct culture they insist we take seriously. What began as a few fans in a bar across the street from the studio singing “Proud of Your Boy” and laughing at the reparations videos of Gazi Kodzo soon became a bona fide men’s club with rituals, traditions, and even its own in-house court called “The Sharia.”

    "If you are (and were born) a woman and you would like to be involved, there is a girls group. They call themselves Proud Boys’ Girls and they’re our second-biggest demographic.”


    The Proud Boys confuse the media because the group is anti-SJW without being alt-right. “Western chauvinist” includes all races, religions, and sexual preferences.

    Check the “Join Us” and “Follow Us” tabs to find a chapter near you or start your own with our help."

    http://proudboysusa.com

    Meanwhile Twitter blocks them and the media labels them.

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    Twitter suspended the accounts of Vice Magazine co-founder Gavin McInnes and his far-right Proud Boys group Friday afternoon. The suspension came ahead of this weekend’s “Unite the Right” rally in Washington, D.C.

    The accounts were shut down for violating the company’s policies prohibiting violent extremist groups, Twitter said in a statement to BuzzFeed News, which was first to report the suspension."

    https://variety.com/2018/digital/ne...ys-ahead-of-unite-the-right-rally-1202902397/

    Male only? White supremacist? Not what their web site says.

    "The violence erupted following a speech by Gavin McInnes, the founder of the male-only far-right group the Proud Boys, who describe themselves as “western chauvinists.”

    “I am disturbed and disgusted by the videos I’ve seen of members of the neo-fascist, white supremacist Proud Boys group in hate-fueled mob violence in the streets of New York City,” James said in a statement posted to Twitter. “New York will not become the next Charlottesville, and we refuse to let the actions of a hateful few define out City.”

    https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/1...er-vandalism-protests-at-nyc-republican-club/
     
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    Thanks for the research. I myself heard of them only about two months ago after Proud Boys survived an ANTIFA attack and then beat the tar out of their attackers and then the collective Left went INSANE, SHRIEKING about EVIL and RACIST Whites . . . while ANTIFA is almost always all White and violent with it to boot . . . and so it went. I just filed it under the blatantly leftist-allied Mainstream Media working -- again -- for the DNC and labeling an opposition group the equivalent of Alt-Right; a term that I was unfamiliar with until they started calling ALL Trump supporters that . . . as well as Deplorables.
     
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    Looks to me like the proud boys are a natural backlash to ANTFA, BLM and some of the other groups with different names but the same people. The media not only gives them a pass but defends them while coming down hard on their opposition from the right. Guess they hate the fact that they carry American flags instead of the flag of Mexico and wear normal street clothes instead of black clothes and black hoods.
     
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    The huge irony about the leftist loyal Mainstream Media is that if the Left ever succeeds in gaining a political lock on this nation as a whole then leftist loyal journalists will be some of the first Useful Idiots to be either placed against a wall and issued a final cigarette or shuffled off to the newly created gulags. It's too bad that the average leftist journalist is apparently either too self absorbed to study history or too innately stupid to comprehend its stark lessons.
     
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    More and more it is becoming apparent that the lying liberal media has become the only power the dem party has left to use. By the media's own polling the media now has the lowest level of TRUST by the people in HISTORY.

    If a prequel is ever written to Orwell's 1984, it will be exactly what is happening in the U.S. today, by the dem party.

    Steve
     
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    Western Chauvinist did not create the world....Chauvin was a big fan of Napoleon...
     
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    And Trump will lead the way..
     
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    Hey, you just described the Drug War and the GOP and Dems fully support it.
     
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    WRONG AGAIN!

    Dems want POWER! and you don't get power with mob actions!

    These games are OVER for dem leadership at minimum.

    Steve
     
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    You don't get power with mob actions....Oh you mean demonstrations by people wanting their opinions heard....Yeah, you'd make a great despotic tyrant follower.
     
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    They are a racist misogynist violent bunch of street thugs in polo shirts.

    Their initiation involves violence and street brawling.
     
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    Did some research on them and watched a few videos. If they are racists and misogynists could you explain all the black, brown and female members? Not a trick question or anything just legitimately would like to know how you would explain that after you claimed the above things.
     
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    There's a huge difference between demonstrations and mob violence. The left has crossed that line into being a violent mob.
     
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    ANTIFA does need to be disciplined yet Trump does nothing..
     
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    And now we have heard from a brainwashed by the media leftist.
     
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    There is a difference.

    And unfortunately you are trying to conflate the two and pretend they are the same
     
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    Really?

    From wiki

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    Proud Boys at a rally in Seattle, 2017
    The Proud Boys have a four-degree initiation process for new members.[15] In the first degree, a recruit must declare "I am a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world."[16] The second degree involves five or more Proud Boys punching the recruit until he names five breakfast cereals. To earn the third degree, the recruit must get a Proud Boy tattoo.[17] The Proud Boys' website says that the fourth degree is reserved for those who have "endured a major conflict related to the cause."[18][19] The Southern Poverty Law Center has said this requires the recruit to get into a physical fight with an Antifa activist at a public rally.[20]
     
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    :roflol:

    Your statement makes NO SENSE (whatsoever).
     
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    Wiki. That’s your source. Also what’s wrong with any of that? Sounds like typical initiation to these types of groups. Have you ever seen what college frats do to their initiates?
     
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    When you dress in black and hide your face with black hoods and attack people with fist, clubs and bear spray you are a violent mob. ANTIFA is the modern day version of Hitlers brown shirts.
     
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    Funny I don't see any of that mentioned on the proud boys web site. Wiki is not always a reliable source and the southern poverty law center seldom is
     
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    That's lies and propaganda from the lying liberal media.

    The PROOF is that dems have been LOSING ELECTIONS SINCE 2010, across the board at local, state, and federal levels of power.

    Dems have lost well over 1000+ seats SINCE 2010.

    Dems want POWER! and you don't get power with mob actions!

    Steve
     
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    I am sure the GOP will screw up enough to allow the Dems back into power, they do it every damn time they get the power..
     
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    NOT when they show the American PEOPLE they prefer to take government by force with angry mobs! . . . Since the Obama administration.

    These games are OVER by the dem leadership.

    GET A GRIP ON REALITY!

    Steve
     
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    Some people disagree with how the Proud Boys describe themselves. Violence seems to follow them to Portland, New York, Los Angeles etc. Why do Proud Boys include violence in their initiation process?

    "Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers."

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys
     
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