Who are the proud boys

Uh huh, and you are incapable of seeing them on your computer too.

lol, smh...

 

Totally not true. Do some research.

 

I am a me too on that issue. I too wonder where is the proof. Some allege they do not support Antifa a known violence group then defend them. You know who you are that defends Antifa.

 

So how about telling Lefty to knock it off?

 

Where did you learn all of that? From your parents? From books? Who taught you to believe what you just posted?

 

Lefty be like: Bwaaak RACIST!, Bwaaak WHITE-SUPREMACIST!, Bwaaak NAZI!.

 

No one -- so far -- seems to have any evidence that the Proud Boys are white supremacists.
Another charge made above was that the 'provoke' violence. If what is meant by that is that their very presence 'provokes' anti-Fa to attack them, then that's a very Orwellian use of language -- blaming the victim.

It's like claiming Martin Luther King's marches in Birmingham 'provoked' the racist attacks on them.

But if the claim is that the Proud Boys hold a march, and then do something like spit on, or shove, or throw something at the anti-Fa people, who are just peacefully counter-picketing ... then let's have evidence of it. Something like that would be 'provocation'.

So ... where is the evidence???? Why don't the defenders of anti-Fa here respond?

 

There appears to be a concerted effort to recast the players. Antifa as poor innocents, being indiscriminately set upon by evil conservatives.

Good luck! I don't think it's gonna work.

 

There is not much deep political thinking in America. I've heard a lot of people on the Right call liberals 'communists', and people on the Left call conservatives 'fascists'. What they mean is that they don't like them. There isn't any serious thinking behind it.

Now in the case of liberals, if the Monomah County Republican Party are 'fascists' then it's no big deal if they get attacked.

Also -- there is the question of white guilt. Many liberals have a deep sense of white guilt -- all those murders in South Chicago every weekend -- all those news stories about young Black males who can't read.... must be OUR fault. And along comes a group like the Proud Boys ... who openly say, 'Nope, not my fault.' Proof that they're fascists, right? Plus ... all those tatoos ... the motorcycles ... definitely not young men from Harvard or Yale, or web designers or marketing managers for Google.

So it becomes easy to slip into the bad-guy/good-guy mode of thinking

At least, that's the best I can do to explain why liberals -- who for a hundred years were 'free speech fundamentalists' -- have now begun to condone violence against people they disagree with. Maybe there are better explanations. If so, I'd like to hear them.

 

I think that it's hard to pin down any specific reasons for our present circumstances. There are many causes, but I can't think of a single reason.

I think this mess has been caused by indoctrination, propaganda, and irresponsible parenting. The 'why' is what has me baffled.

My default theory is that people, even many of our own citizens, look at us like many sports fans, even some New Yorkers, view the Yankees. We are the too successful team that they love to hate.

 

I realize it may come as a shock to some but history books can be a wealth of facts like publishing 25 point Nazi Party platform first published in the 1920's (for its precursor the DAP) and later fully adopted by the NDSAP.. A library card or google search can be of immense help in expanding one's knowledge.

Its proof positive that history can make a contribution when dealing with lowlife scumbag fascists.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

 

All that to say you use the local library? And at times you use google?

You realize nothing about me since I have a very extensive collection if history books, including about the Nazis, couple that with my living in Germany for about 15 months in my past. It was exciting to learn their history first hand.

 

Pointless spewage.

But hey...you got your name on a post so...

 

Rather presumptuous of you to assume nobody else is conversant with 20th century history.

Since I have a familial interest, I have been long motivated to acquire a detailed knowledge and understanding of the rise and fall of the nazi scum. My decades long fight with idiot holocaust deniers provided even greater detail.

 

First this is not about holocaust denial. There is abundant proof the Nazis slaughtered millions of victims. What is not often mentioned is when did they do it? Was it from the beginning of the 3rd Reich? Ask millions of Americans and that is their belief. So why the slaughter? Germany used them as workers. That is why Arbeit Macht Frei was on the camps. To spur workers to try to get free.

Nazis commenced governing in 1933 I believe. But he was not mass killing Jews. Most of his killings were his own brownshirts.

So in the spring of 1942 Germany commenced the mass killings in Poland. True they were killing mass numbers in Russia first, commencing in 1941.

But first, nothing said by me did more than try to tell you that your belief I do not know history is a grave error by you. I did not claim to own all history knowledge.

 

No, your response to what I am discussing with another poster is the pointless spewage. My name automatically is added. Just the way yours always is.

 

Wow...just wow. "spur the workers to get FREE"??? Were you trying to be funny? That couldn't have been a serious statement

Good thing

 

When you see a sign above the gates of a work camp, sure you hope that work does make you free. Auschwitz in Poland was a well known work camp first.

Why would the Nazis put up that particular sign? I know, clearly you do not. But you had to snip at me today as normal.

 

I totally realize that being a fascist scumbag does not mean they deny the holocaust.

But apart from exploiting slave labor, the rationale for the slaughter was "racial inferiority" which of course the primary target being the jews.

Yes, he hadn't consolidated his power in 33, but by 38, after he had exterminated his internal opposition, his war against the jews reached "critical mass" with Kristallknacht and EVERYTHING changed for the worse. It took a few years for the final solution to come into play, but the complete disregard for the welfare of his slaves was already standard operating procedure.

The organized mass MURDERS began in 41, but the death toll thru abuse, overwork, disease and starvation was already an off the charts crime against humanity.

I was merely reacting to your snarky question about how I acquired my knowledge.

 

They are basically your fratboy degenerates who don't want to grow up and like picking fights when drunk. The rapist kavanaugh would have fit right in with that gang.

 

Lol...No, this is pathetic, abject turd polishing for the nazis and you have no idea about the reason for that bit of fake news on the gates on their concentration camps.
You should be ashamed.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...iolence-fascism-white-supremacy-a8588426.html

 

Well you had the option. To explain the reason why the Nazis used that particular phrase. But you got chicken. You hit and run. I am not at all turd polishing. If you recall, not that i expect you will, the Poles were invaded in 1939. Hitler used the Jews as labor. And to fool the Jews, he was conning them into thinking they would be free. Ergo to keep prisoners from escaping and reporting back at what was happening. Also recall when the Camps started, The Jews in the Ghetto still had to work. And a lot about Nazis you simply do not know. Turd polishing my hiney.

 

I believe had Kavanaugh been a very devoted and driven Democrat, you would not talk like that about the man.

 

Interesting that some on the left call them uneducated scum of the earth losers and others say they are frat boys. Pick a story and stick with it.