Who is the Anti-fa?

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  1. tsuke

    tsuke Well-Known Member

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    With their recent coverage in the news it is important for everyone that we understand who Anti-fa is, what they stand for, and which major political figures have been supporting them.

    Anti-fa is of course short for Anti fascist. They are a group which believe in opposing fascism by any means necessary. They believe that fascism must be stamped out in its infancy before it takes root. To Anti-fa physical violence, intimidation, and suppression of free speech are all valid and legitimate tools to combat who they deem as fascist. One of the defining traits of Anti-fa is they have very little in the way of central leadership so each particular "cell" (for lack of a better term) determines who or what is fascist too them. Another defining trait of Anti-fa is they have widespread political support. The alt-right has been denounced by nearly all major politicians of both parties. In contrast nearly every major Democrat has expressed support for the actions of Anti-fa. Even Republican leaders such as Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney have cleared Anti-fa of any wrong doing with their statements.

    Since every division of Anti-fa decides for themselves what defines fascism they have declared a lot of events as fascist. In college where conservative speakers such as Ben Shapiro or even the more controversial Milo have been scheduled to speak, Anti-fa has been on hand to prevent the event from taking place. Sometimes it is thru physical threats, actual violence, or blockading the entrances. Even their presence sends a chilling effect as conservative speakers are forced to pay huge sums to provide adequate security for their talks. In political campaigns they have decided that the Trump campaign and its supporters are fascist. They were on hand to break up the Trump rally in Chicago during the primaries. In Arizona they even forced President Trump to enter one of his rallies thru the back. In California there was even a rally by Trump supporters where Anti-fa used pepper spray on children. Even Republican town halls discussing the potential changes to Obamacare were also protested or demonstrations against planned parenthood.

    To date I am not aware of any demonstrations against any political activities done by the left which goes a long the uniform support they draw from Democrat politicians. On the other hand it seems like the definition Anti-fa uses for fascist has been expanded to include any activity which furthers the Republican agenda. This makes the refusal of mainstream Republican political leaders such as Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Mitt Romney to condemn them very strange. To date it looks like President Trump is the only major political figure to condemn violence caused by Anti-fa.

    To sum everything up. Anti-fa is an organization supported by Democrats and establishment Republicans which violently suppresses anything they deem as fascist. They have also determined that anything having to do with conservatives is fascist.
     
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    Leftist terrorists who believe it is OK to use violence to achieve their political goals - the ends, they believe, justify the means.
     
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    Antifa motto, 'speech is violence'.
     
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    I would like to see support of your claims that nearly every Democrat has expressed support for Antifa, as well as Democrats supporting Antifa (you probably mean financially?).

    Antifa has an anarchist philosophy, which is not in line with Democrat mainstream philosophy.

    Personally, I think that Antifa are a bunch of professional trouble-makers who give peaceful protestors and Democrats a bad name.

    While I agree with the idea of anti-facism, I strongly disagree with their ideas of violent protest, as well as anarchism.

    If they would go away, I wouldn't mind a bit.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Terrorists you say?

     
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    I appreciate the fact you cannot counter what I said; you and I both know your red herring does nothing to diminish my statement.
     
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    So you want to ignore the ISIS style attack that killed one and injured 18 others?

    Newsflash...it wasn't Antifa that did that
     
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    Anti-fa: they're cowards hiding behind masks ... willing to throw bottles, rocks, and urine to anyone who disagrees with them or even police officers. Occasionally they become physically violent, assaulting anyone who stands in their path.

    Pure scum.
     
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    One might think antifa and Trump would be natural bedfellows, what with Trump's appeal to smash the system, bring down the established order, and remake America.

    Maybe it's because antifa also don't like fascists and neo-nazoids which grinds the gears.
     
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    Nazis really hate Antifa. As they should. Antifa is a direct threat to white nationalists forming a new Reich in this country.
     
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    Provide quotes, please.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anti-fa, like BLM, is all sorts of different people and groups loosely organized to counter fascism, nazism, and white supremacists, that many on the right like to group together and stereotype to create a false equivalency with the nazis and white supremacists the anti-fas are counter-protesting.
     
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    Totally wrong. White nationalists are not by definition nazis or fascist or even racist

    There is no danger of a nazi uprising in this nation. At best throughout the US there are at best a few thousand real nazis. As opposed to Aryans in prison more interested in drugs or the skin heads who side with whichever group happens to have someone willing to have sex with them.

    They are not growing and are viewed with contempt and disdain by the vast majority of Americans.

    Antifa is just as bad morally and often far worse than any nazi. Nazis may march and demonstrate but when left alone that is all they do and get laughed at. by contrast antifa makes it a point to plan violent attacks.

    In addition antifa deliberately equates ANYONE slightly to the right of noam chomsky as a nazi or fascist.

    Milo is no racist nazi or fascist whatever else he may be. Neither is Ann Coulter or Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson or any of the other targets of antifa.

    Antifa hates and attacks the proudboys who are NOT racists or nazis or fascists. Not counter protest but violently attacks.

    Antifa is in fact the real threat
     
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    They are the afterbirth of a the socialism and anti nationalism propagated by the scum like Trotsky who hated Russia and the white people.
    I hope every member of antifa know how their precious Trotsky ended his life - with a pick axe to the head.
     
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    I've been watching various live stream video of the antifa events.

    Has anyone else noticed that many and maybe a majority are female?

    They seem to instigate the initial violent attacks. Odd psychology.
     
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    Exhibit A.
     
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    All factual.

    You simply cannot counter it with any facts
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's clear you don't understand the difference between fact and your opinions.
     
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    yes I do it is you lacking such comprehension.

    I stated facts you merely stated uninformed opinion
     
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    I appreciate the fact you also cannot counter what I said; you and I both know your red herring does nothing to diminish my statement.
     
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    ... if you are politically ignorant on a grand scale - sure.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for sharing your opinion, but I've learned from the past the futility of trying to demonstrate to you the difference between fact and opinion. But it's there for anyone to see.
     
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    Just great to see you back!
     
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    Please - think about this for a moment.
    If there was a real threat of white supremacists, etc, establishing a "new Reich" in this country - that is, they had the numbers and the support in place for such a thing to be even remotely plausible - do you think the antifa terrorists would survive the violent encounters they currently seek?
     
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    Make no mistake, there are likely many über-fanatic/lunatic gangbangers in those Antifanarchist ranks.

    Any type of scenario like this, would take a while to play out.
     

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