Who killed Skripal?

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Who killed Skripal?

  1. Russia

    12 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Great Britain

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
  3. Third unknown side

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  4. That is an unclear story, I don't know

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  5. Other

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    12.5%
  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roll: 'Say something often enough and the gullibles will believe it!'.
     
  2. st256

    st256 Banned

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    No. The murderer is in Britain. It's already clear.
     
  3. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody 'improves rapidly' after getting a dose of Novichok. On the contrary, they die rapidly!
     
  4. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

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    He left on a plane mate.

    They boarded it and forensiced it. His exit route has been traced.
    He won't be coming back and he won't be visiting any of our allied countries ever again either. Since they now have his identity too.
    We've got his photo and his DNA.

    So... keep your hero. We'll be bombing more of your other heroes instead. Rough justice for them.
     
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  5. st256

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    Oh, no. He's sitting in Britain and is getting money from your government. Your taxes is spending on this person. By the way, do you know that Theresa May lies? I mean is it this information in you press already?
     
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    Baff Well-Known Member

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    And still we will bomb your heroes.

    No matter what you say.
    There is a price to pay for ****ing with us.

    You have started to pay it, and it's not over yet.



    You've sent your message, now we must reply.
     
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    I don't anything about 'Novichok', honestly, so I can't say how everyone would react to it....

    One observation I can make with some degree of accuracy is that it would be HIGHLY unlikely that the Russian FSB or anyone under Vladimir Putin's control would make such an unprofessional, frankly STOOPID, half-assed "assassination" attempt!

    Hey, if 'Pootskie' wants you dead, then you'll die -- but why would he authorize some kind of idiotic 'mission' to simply sicken some old has-been spy, and his daughter? To give "the West" even more propaganda-fodder to use against him...?! A former Lt. Colonel of the KGB would have always known better than to do anything as STOOPID as that... much better....

    [​IMG]. "My FSB does not have a "B-Team"...."
     
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    I don't think it was their intent to "sicken" them.

    I don't think they meant to fail.


    But medical science is good. No matter how smart you are, sometimes you will fail.

    The killer is still at large the victim hospitalised and close to death. Not exactly a total fail. More of a mostly win.
    Putin doesn't give a **** about western propaganda against him.
    It strengthens him politically at home.

    And what does the UK ever do? Some half arsed sanctions that affect no one?
    Oooo he's soooo scared.
     
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  9. JakeJ

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    I do not doubt for a second if an American in the intelligence community with national security secrets and knowledge was learned to be a Russian double agent - and that person went to live in another country - that our CIA would either capture or assassinate him - and rightly so as it is the ultimate betrayal of your country - the purest form of treason.

    It was, in my opinion, entirely within the rights of Russia to assassinate one of their agents they learned was a double agent who then went to live in another country when discovered. He had engaged in treason and betrayal of his country, and the knowledge he possessed was an ongoing danger to Russia. He was a fool if he thought anything else would happen.
     
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    Skripal is over 66 years old, and hasn't been a "player" for 15 years! The most that any intelligence agency would do about some old has-been spy like Skripal would be to observe him from time to time to see if he's started drooling on himself yet....
     
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    I don't think our justice system operates quite that way, Jake, even where spies are concerned. But Russia? Well, they kill journalists, don't they? Of course they'd kill intelligence assets like Skripal without any qualms.
     
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    Don't mind who they kill as long as they behave themselves when they are round here.
    They haven't. So consequences.
     
  13. cerberus

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    Don't forget that the Russian traitor was a double agent, and might still have been active? And I know you're having a snipe at Putin for whatever reason you have against him, but do you seriously believe Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, or that guy Manning would be alive right now if they could have been wasted without too much publicity? Oh and just to remind you - all countries have their 'secret services', but some of them deal with traitors in-house, as it were, whereas others (like yours perhaps?) give theirs a one-way ticket to other countries and pay the secret services of those countries to do the dirty work. It's called 'rendition'? So remember, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and don't be such a hypocrite?
     
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    Nobody, they're still alive.
     
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    Please don't misunderstand my observations about Vladimir Putin. He is a very intelligent world leader, and he's been named as the most powerful leader of any country in the world for an unprecedented five years in a row by Forbes! He has taken Russia from being a chaotic basket-case of misery and hopelessness and made it powerful, competitive, and, yes, potentially dangerous. Frankly, I've said for years that the smartest thing for the U. S. to do would be to have a much closer relationship with Russia, for then, together, we could completely eradicate violent Islam from civilization. I've believed that since "W" Bush was meeting with Putin after the horrible Beslan school massacre in 2004... but, sadly, the opportunity passed, and now instead, we're entering into another stupid, pointless "cold war". :frustrated:

    No, what I was inferring is, as I said, if Putin wants you dead, then you're going to die... period! To my knowledge, it has not been proven that the FSB (under Putin's orders) directed a 'hit' on Skripal -- who's been out of the 'game' for at least 14 years and living in Great Britain since 2010....

    In my not-so-humble opinion that it is both unlikely and illogical that Putin would have ordered an attack on Skripal at this point. Moreover, if Putin wanted him dead, it most likely would have been done in a much more professional manner than this bungled, half-assed, amateurish 'assassination attempt' that occurred instead. But, as it was, the event made for very, uh, timely and attention-grabbing 'theater' in Great Britain. "The talk of the town", which conveniently focused hatred on Russia, and Putin, whether it was actually deserved or not.... :roll:
     
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    Good stuff, especially about 'a much closer relationship with Russia', with the mutual threat of militant Islam facing our countries - and Russia does have more experience with dealing with terrorism and terrorists. He doesn't pussyfoot around, he ruthlessly destroys them before they destroy (in this instance) the rest of us, a threat which is on the horizon right now. But instead of cooperating while there's still time, the west is trying to destroy him. I mean FFS??

    The leader of any democratic country has to duty to destroy its traitors by any means; traitors deserve to be dispatched. If they don't want to be dispatched then don't become a traitor. The only mistake Putin made in this particular case was doing the deed here - if indeed that was the case, which I don't believe it was. And as I have already said, Skripal might still have been active. Play with fire, get burnt - it goes with the territory.

    Agree that. It was a fiasco from the word 'go', and there are too many things which aren't adding up, not least the ongoing charade in Salisbury, and the absence of evidence in Douha. It has been too - what's the word? - too contrived.
     
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    There are several lines on the case and many facts that contradict each other. But what we know for sure is these last several months have seen a deluge of misinformation and lies from the British establishment. To date, London still didn't provide any solid evidence. I don't believe Porton Down staff either as it has projects funded by the Pentagon’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The UK military laboratory near the city of Salisbury has a grim history. The Pentagon has spent at least $70 million on military experiments involving tests with deadly viruses and chemical agents at Porton Down. In fact, the US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons. Hundreds of thousands of unwitting people are systematically exposed to dangerous pathogens and other incurable diseases. Bio warfare scientists using diplomatic cover test man-made viruses at Pentagon bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world.
     
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    Because he is the one you were most able to kill, and/or the opportunity to do so very easily presented itself.

    Putin does this periodically to keep the terror fresh in his opponent's minds. My thinking is that he may have a list and assassins in circulation with orders to just kill anyone on it if they can.

    I am applying Occam's razor here. Putin has done this before and he doesn't honestly care who knows he is doing it as there is really nothing anyone can do. The only result is that anyone who has ever criticized Putin is put in fear of their lives and most will almost certainly not be criticizing him any more while those who have not opposed him but are thinking of doing so will think twice and keep on thinking. And why would anyone else do this? To make Putin look bad? He already looks bad, this makes him look fearsome and that increases his power. No. I can't really see anybody else but Vlad as most likely for this, can you?
     
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    :roll: Say it often enough and the gullibles will believe it! :wall:
     

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