Who/What was the biggest loser on November 5th

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Who/What was the biggest loser on November 5th

  1. Kamala Harris and Tim Walz

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  2. The Main Stream News Media

    18.2%
  3. The Democrat party

    27.3%
  4. Left wing celebrities such as George Clooney, Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey

    18.2%
  5. The Neo Con Trump haters such as Liz Cheney and disgraced Generals

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  6. The Law Fare warriors-James, Bragg, etc

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  7. The Alphabet Agenda Advocates

    9.1%
  8. Illegal aliens

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  9. The "Squad" and the anti Israel advocates

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  10. Others

    27.3%
  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Lots of potential choices-pick yours
     
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    All of the above.
    :p
     
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    The ordinary American people were the biggest losers but they are not on the list.

    Its incredible how many of them think they won.

    Its like a kid at a race track who pointed at "Equestrian Dream" in the paddock, thinking he won after that horse crosses the finish line first. No kid. Its kinda cool you chose the winner, but you have won precisely nothing.
     
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    I voted The Democratic Party. This election they just didn't have anything in their corner other than not being Trump, and they didn't bother trying to rope together a coherent platform because they figured not being Trump would be enough. They also forgot that loud internet morons don't actually equal the entire country so basing policy and messaging on what online morons want instead of the far larger majority of regular working class people might not be the best way to get elected. Sorry Democrats, there just aren't enough hyper woke progressives to get you elected without having to appeal outside that base. And the people outside that base don't give a **** about pronouns, trans stuff, and turning everything into a racial issue. They don't give a **** about DEI. Most voters are inherently selfish, they are going to vote based on what they feel will be best for THEM instead of what my be best for society and the country. And the Democrats weren't selling any of that. They weren't even selling anything that WOULD be better for society and the country even if it's not so good in the short term.

    The Democrats lost this election because they'd rather be a viral Tik Tok account than a political party.
     
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    If he enacts his economic agenda, the biggest losers will be the middle class, and low wage earners. If he enacts his threats against the media, the biggest loser will be freedom of speech. Our allies will also be losers.

    Dems lost the elections, - obviously, but will likely take back the Congress in 2 yrs (happens pretty much every in mid terms after one party control) and maybe the WH in 4, (remains to be seen).
     
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    If Trump enacts his economic agenda, the biggest winners will be the Middle Class, low wage earners and anyone living paycheck to paycheck. Cost of living will go down, taxes will go down and the economy will once again boom. Secure the border, deport criminals and terrorists and gang members, clean up the streets and clean out these crooked far leftists that have been wrecking the country from DC and down to the State level.

    The biggest losers were The Democrats. They have lost the Middle Class and have been exposed as far leftsists with no decent policies. Corrupt, eltist and telling lie after lie after lie has turned the Americvan voter in a different direction. If things keep moving back to the center, the world itself will be a better place and so will we.
     
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    The tax hikes on imports will drive prices up, not down, and how much lower can you cut taxes given the fact that 50% of the population pay zero income tax at this point?
     
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    he needs to change the tax structure so everyone pays something. and tariffs are more a bargaining chip
     
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    With tariffs everyone would pay something, - a LOT of something, which is why I said the low income earners and middle class are hit the hardest, because they will end up spending a large portion of their income to cover the extra tax.

    Bargaining chip? He is telling Mexico to close the border or......he'll tax the living crap out of the American consumer. I'm not sure what will be taken seriously. We import lot of food from there, and since people have to eat they won't have a choice but to pay his IRS
     
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    I'd wait and see what happens before having a meltdown
     
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    Most likely loser: Younger generations of Americans. Trump doesn't care about the environment and doesn't believe in climate change, so he will facilitate lining wealthy persons pockets now at the expense of future resources. He is also prone to use debt to try to make things look better until somebody else has to pay the bill.

    Other possible losers:

    Working classed Americans. They believed Trump when he said he can lower prices, but tariffs and mass deportations, if enacted as described, will make things worse, potentially hurting the whole economy, but especially the poor. Will republicans pay the price politically later? Depends on when crap hits the fan. Most will not believe/understand sufficiently sophisticated analysis, so it comes down to who is left holding the bag.

    The long-term economy: Deregulation is essentially a long-term volatility multiplier. It usually means quicker gains, but also a higher likelihood of catastrophic failures (Enron, e.g.). Then there's the deficit and climate change issues also contributing to this.

    Women: Anti-choice and pro-theocratic tendencies in a republican dominant federal government.

    Minorities: Policies reinforcing white dominance are more likely with a republican-dominated federal government. Aggressive immigration reinforcement may also spill over into affecting citizens who look foreign.

    Science that is not related to an obvious profit potential.
     
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    Yes, everyone has to wait to see if others around him speak sense to him before he pulls the trigger.
     
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    A bunch of nice sounding empty claims without a single specific to back anything up.

    But the single worse part is this claim "deport criminals, terrorists, and gang members". Even if I am feeling so generous that I overlook the simple fact that most criminals, terrorists and gang members are native born and have no other country to deport them to, and take it you mean only the illegal and perhaps legal alien ones, its pretty hopeful to assume America's paramilitary acronym gangs (FBI, ATF, TSA, ICE, etc) have the balls and the mettle to get the job done, or even get it done without terrorizing the citizenry more than they already do....which is probably on par with the criminal elements you mention.

    And good luck preventing them from coming back after dropping them off in country X which has no interest or money to lock them up and prevent them from leaving.
     
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    I had to go with....
    Left wing celebrities such as George Clooney, Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey

    because I do suspect that within two years quite a few of these billionaires will be in jail............... or they will be on probation because they sang and sang and sang and sang about the other billionaires who were even worse......
     
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    America lost
     
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    I vehemently disagree.......
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    True.... but just yesterday something HUGE occurred to me......
    Nov 5, 2024 can be compared with the Jewish Holy Day of Rosh ha Shanah in many ways..... therefore November 15, 2024 must have at least something of a Yom Kippur flavour to it..... and therefore November 20 to 28, 2024 must have something of a Festival of Tabernacles flavour to it..... [this festival is also called Sukkot].....

    ...
    ...
    Indeed...... but President Donald J. Trump's children and grandchildren may be very interested in this general idea......
    and if they are this is their for two dollars..... and I would suggest that they will want to toss this to The Jim Cavaziel and / or The Jonathan Roumie... [both of whom played the role of Rabbi Yeshua -Jesus brilliantly]......


    Now... I finally understand a prediction that I was given back in 1992.....
    I had already read one of Helen Wambach Ph. D's books and I got curious......

    I went to Ms. Debbie Young in New Glasgow because she was one of the only certified hypnotherapists in my area of Nova Scotia......

    I was interested in if I could see any "past lives"..... actually I could not be hypnotized because I was scared of the feeling of losing control but.....

    Ms. Young told me that she saw The VAtican in behind me.... [which at that time made no sense to me.... I was wondering......"what in the world would I be doing at the Vatican.... I'm practially Jewish??????!!!!"]

    Anyway... I think that I finally understand why I would be at the Vatican and I actually explained the whole thing over here:

    The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East!

    On page one of this discussion... scroll down to post number twenty five at the bottom of the page and you are rolling........

    This ties in with this prediction:

    In what way will Pope Francis be the "last Pope?"


    I predict Total Paradigm Shift in the world economy... and a paper that I wrote back in 2009 / 2010 is also relevant to the how......


    .....
    I have a suggestion for the Roman Catholics and Charismatics of Paris Ontario..... do several online courses by near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai.... so that you get the background...... because once you earn your Associate Degree in Theology from Dr. Kevin Zadai..... you will be ready to understand the near death experience account of Dr. Gloria Polo...... [without starting a big Theological squabble]......??????!!!!!!

    ....
    This will sound strange but if a Charismatic Catholic begins their research into near death experience accounts with the NDE of Dr. Gloria Polo who is Roman Catholic.... they might come to the conclusion that they are responsible to convert everybody on earth over to Roman Catholicism.... but.... if they will take several courses by near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai they will be able to understand enough milk of the word to be able to see that people from any and all Alpha Churches can also be saved... and make it up out of Purgatory or hell..........
    Two of Dr. Kevin Zadai's courses are totally free of charge... you merely have to give your name and e-mail and sign up as a student.......

    ....
    The gifted Dr. Lance Wallnau was somehow shown that President Donald J. Trump... in spite of his many, many, many, many flaws.... has some sort of "Cyrus" calling on his life and Presidency................ so........ if this is true then somehow the election of President Donald J. Trump for his second term on November 5, 2024 should set in motion some variation on JUBILEE............. which was initiated by Moses.........

    I have actually written a bit on this topic myself.......

    "Pro-life / Maxime Bernier campaign / combatting a BEAR market and...."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ing-a-bear-market-and.558730/#post-1075104823

    and........

    www.GreenDesertsToReduceCarbon.blogspot.com/
     

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