Whoopi Goldberg blamed Colin Powell death on unvaccinated

First off. Can anyone answer me this
Does the vaccine do anything to minimize catching or spreading it?
I thought the vaccines make you less vulnerable to the symptoms. But maybe I’m wrong
Is anyone here informed enough to know?

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ied-as-quickly-had-everybody-been-vaccinated/

 

It does reduce your likelihood of both catching and spreading the virus - but they're not the primary reasons for taking the vaccine.

Incidentally, it reduces your likelihood of infecting others by reducing your viral load. It's harder to spread it around when you don't have much in your system.

 

thanks. I did not know this. I am vaxxed but I thought the only thing this does is make people less likely to be hospitalized.

 

That's it's primary purpose, yes. It just has the added advantage of reducing your likelihood of catching it (because your body is already 'hostile' to it), and/or spreading it.

 

Well that has been a moving goal post once it became undeniable that break through infections were happening in much larger numbers than were originally accounted for. The anti-vax "conspiracy theory" and "misinformation" turned out to be right as rain on that one.

 

My comment on the OP link. Opinions may vary but I am not going to make personal risk based health decisions based on, or to any degree influenced by, the opinion of a TV "personality" who names herself after a gag device that makes farting sounds. Just sayin.

 

"but they're not the primary reasons for taking the vaccine"????? Then what IS the primary reason? OBEYING LIBERALS?

 

Keeping you out of hospital and keeping you alive.

 

Sorry. You can get paranoid about the China Virus if you want. Hide there under your bed. I haven't tripped over a body yet. My freedom is dear. I've been shot at for it... for yours too. The China Virus doesn't run my life.

 

I guess 40% of deaths in Maryland are vaccinated. Uh oh... Quick! Get me the leftist talking point!

 

How many is 40%?? That statement says noting about the seriousness of the problem. How many is that? and if 40% of the people that get vaccinated die of the China Virus... why are we getting it at all?

 

Assume you've had the anthrax vaccine? That was WAY worse than the covid vaccine. I don't see any reason NOT to get it. Do what you will, but it would be a shame to survive getting shot at to be killed by something that was so easily preventable. Not saying that it WOULD kill you, but it has killed otherwise perfectly healthy people. I don't see that as "letting it run your life". I see it as a literally 5 minute wait to get a simple shot.

 

Google.com will be your friend if you allow it.

 

I'm vaccinated. So what? That doesn't alter the rights of others not to get it. Remember the battle cry "My BODY! My CHOICE!"? Yeah? Well its a universal thought, not just for libs.

 

This thread is entitled "
Whoopi Goldberg blamed Colin Powell death on unvaccinated"

I'm very surprised she didn't blame Trump. Maybe she'll figure out a way to do so.

 

The natural immunity issue is starting, finally, to get out in the open, thanks to Israel and the guy who rammed through the Pfizer fraud vax.

Natural immunity is vastly better than the fraud vax.

Whoopi Goldberg is an imbecile.

 

It's important for us to realize that this stupidity is definitely not limited to Whoopi.
It's VERY widespread.

I mean seriously, I know two or three different acquaintances who expressed things like this, and I don't even know that many people.

It seems obvious to me that a lot of people do not even give much thought over what their beliefs actually are - even beliefs that don't quite really make much sense if you stopped to think about - these people will just accept as a fact.

The news is shaping and cultivating false impressions in people, even if they are not actually literally saying a false fact.

 

Please do not insult imbeciles in that way.

 

There is actually very little scientific research or study on this specific question.

It is generally believed that it probably does reduce the chance of catching, and of spreading it, but exactly how much is not really known.

It is also believed that any protection it offers also reduces over time, over a timeframe of months.

Most of the studies are only looking at hospitalizations, how many people end up in the hospital and looking at information about those people.

I find it very ironic that these people say "Believe the Science". It reveals how ignorant they are. They're just parroting things they heard in the news.
The "science" is not really there, if we're talking about actual studies and experiments that directly show evidence.

 

Why are we taking it? I was vaxxed for small pox many years ago. It keeps me from GETTING or GIVING it. Why are we taking the China Virus vaccination if it doesn't stop you from getting or spreading it? Why?

 

I didn’t say it did. By all means, they can do what they want. But... why?? It seems like people are not wanting to get vaccinated... just because? I just find it kind of goofy. But by all means, if they don’t want to prevent an easily preventable virus, have at it.

 

Because it's believed it helps prevent the spread and transmission.
This is mostly based off hospitalization data, making the assumption that the hospitalization data is a good indicator of effectiveness, which is not necessarily the case. (There are several different types of "effectiveness")
It's also based on conjecture and theory, based on other scientific medical facts. Which is not entirely unreasonable, but is a little unreasonable to be basing public policy on.

Many people are completely misled by the idea of a "vaccine", thinking that means that their chances of getting infected will be very low.

A lot of politicians do not really understand the facts, or the evidence or specific scientific reasoning. They are getting most all their perceptions of reality from the news.

And of course this thing is very politicized on top of that. Getting into that part would probably take a whole separate thread to explain. Basically people lie to themselves and others for political purposes and to try to get more votes. Eventually that creates a "reality" of its own.

I've actually talked to someone about this, and it seems to me this person has obviously been brainwashed (subliminal messaging type of thing). Their thinking suddenly becomes illogical and based on preprogrammed selective reasoning. I explained to them that the vaccine might only offer a statistical 60 or 70% reduction in chance of hospitalization, and this person responded that they thought that would still justify mandatory vaccination of the public.
They acted as if they had never even considered exactly how effective this vaccine was before, that they had already completely made up their mind about it. Again, preprogrammed response in their thinking.

 

If it doesn't reduce your chances of GETTING the China Virus... then why do we get it? To be cool?

 

Because your immune system will know how to defeat it when you do?

 

It's complicated. There are many aspects to that.
I don't think we could fully discuss all of them in this thread.

When you ask the "why" question, what are you actually asking?
Why the reality has unfolded the way it has? Or whether there's actual logical reasoning for government to be pursuing the policies it has, and what this reasoning is?
Do you mean what are these people thinking?

I personally think it's oversimplified thinking and emotionalism - hysteria in a word.