Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Nat Turner, May 19, 2014.
Whoever pays them to do their job.
I'm getting the impression you have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying all scientists who are employed are bought out? All grant money for research is only given if they find certain results?
Some are deluded.
Familiar refrain. Ask a true patriot who is behind the screen pulling the levers on the hoax/plot/conspiracy and all they can come up with ridiculous, hilarious mumblings about amorphous and unseen forces. Actually pathetic.
Yeah, you're just making baseless claims and don't have a single bit of evidence to back it up. You just WANT to believe that it's just a conspiracy.
It's not just a conspiracy, it's mass conformism.
There is no conspiracy but there is human behavior and over 2.5 billion and rising to fight for.
It's the best guess science can make at this point. if people who don't understand the science, and that's most people, want to have an opinion, and there's no requirement to have an opinion, then conforming to science's best guess at this point is the only sensible option. The alternative is to conform to a bunch of ill educated waffling idiots and crackpot right wing idiocy dressed up as cogent, earnest thought, almost all of which is definitely in the pocket of some malignant ideology or other not to mention directly funded by those with a vested interest in the dominance of the fossil fuel industries.
Science's best guess is the best we have and it's appalling how maligned it's become. I can almost see evolution going in reverse in real time.
Would you say the same about, I don't know, Nazi science of it's time?
Funny how you never hear about true patriots arguing the finer points of medicine (which is pretty much science in its most immediate, practical and applicable form) with their oncologist, heart specialist or brain surgeon. Spend a few hours watching FOX and they are more knowledgeable about climate science than NASA or NOAA but have a heart attack, stroke or get the BIg C and all of a sudden they are big believers in credentialed scientists.
Or maybe not so much.
Sure, why not.
As long as you're prepared to make the same psychological inference about, I don't know, the science which restores sight or treats malaria.
Besides which, and leaving aside the salacious horrors stories, what do we really know about Nazi science and what and where it's influence and conclusions have led humanity?
Perhaps some future researcher will have the records and info available to piece together a map.
First, though, the attempt to maintain a planetary eco-system fit for sentient life.
Why can't any true patriot explain who is the wizard behind the global warming curtain pulling the strings?
Maybe we really should just go with Bob
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
I didn't claim it was.
So, you are one of those of the opinion that a doctor somehow knows all things also? Pretty naive. They don't call it 'practicing medicine' for nothing.
If I have a heart attack I'll trust the doc to save my life. You have a heart attack you are welcome to thumb through Glenn Beck's book in the ambulance.
All those who participate.
Well, there is a huge difference between the old science of anatomy and the young science of climate science. For one, a big difference is actual outcome based on evidence. Not too many doctors sit around a computer screen deciding a program to tell them how to do heart surgery. Right now the evidence does not match the CAGW alarmist predictions based on poor knowledge and limited computer modelling.
Next time you want heart surgery, ask your computer to do it and see how that works.
It didn't happen overnight. You don't have to look any further than the proposed solutions to smell a central-planning, wealth redistributing rat.
Nope. It's a scientific consensus, based on a lot of research.
Sure. Whatever. But you haven't let us in on the secret identity of the mastermind orchestrating and coordinating this massive hoax.
As the case of the blacklisting of Dr. Bengtsson shows us you don't need a Hoax/Plot/Conspiracy you simply need a culture of fear and intimidation.
The threats that made Dr. Bengtsson fear for his own health will most certainly make any other young scientist think twice about challenging the warmmonger line.
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You don't need a mastermind. You have group think enforced through fear and intimidation as we saw with Dr. Bengtsson. There is no mastermind. Someone comes out as a skeptic and the worthless scum of climate science spring into action to destroy him. No one needs to direct them. They are evil enough to know what to do themselves. Warmmogners are a gang of ruthless thugs nothing more. And the more the culture of fear and intimidation that has been used to create a fake "concensus" becomes apparent to the people the more they most their grip and the more crazy they get.
Its based on fear and intimidation as we saw with the witch hunt of Dr. Bengtsson.
Right. So it is all just an amorphous mass of conspiracy reinforced by .........an amorphous mass of conspiracy. Except for the brave souls funded by carbon fuel industries speaking The Truth. Natch.
Next up: The Grassy Knoll har!
You would know.
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