If anything same-sex marriage, being an institution that encourages monogamy, will help curb HIV rates among gays. The UK is also set to introduce SSM shortly and has a very low rate, with heterosexuals accounting for the majority of cases. I think the more "underground" homosexuality is, the less likely they are to form lasting relationships, and the more prevalent promiscuity will be. The UK is about as tolerant as Spain, so those statistics don't mean a lot.
Exactly the problem. There is no social structures built around and supporting a culture of safer homosexual behavior, I'm 100% in agreement for you for once. We need to encourage this culture. Yes, a stigma against homosexuality makes it difficult to form long term relationships. Relationships are often held in the public eye, at social functions, family dinners, going out to the movies, restaurants, or whatever public things couples often do. Homosexuals who feel stigmatized, afraid that their family and friends will abandon them for being homosexual have difficulty fostering long-term relationships as a consequence of being unable to be public about it. If you want an example that it can be done, look at me. I'm in an approaching 6 year monogamous relationship with my partner, longer than any straight friends my age have been in. Not trying to show off or anything, just saying that the capacity for such a culture is there. And yes, healthcare is an issue for homosexuals. Maybe not so much today as before, but healthcare sensitive to the needs of homosexuals is important for the diagnosis and subsequent control of HIV. Lack of treatment (or being afraid of getting healthcare and diagnosis for the stigma attached to it) perpetuates the problem. Being kicked out of your house or otherwise unable to approach your family to get tested restricts your access to healthcare. Kids and young adults can be stupid enough to have un-safe sex, and then be unable to be tested without adequate facilities. That's why you see things like free test clinics where I'm from, which I hope are common across the USA.
Thats "because there is no stigma among gays for having more unprotected sex with more partners". Its like a badge of honor. An achievement to be celebrated.
What made you the expert in the field of gay sex?! I know a couple of gay men who have terrible numbers who aren't particularly proud of themselves for it; but then I know more heterosexuals with an equally high number of notches in their bedposts and they openly talk about that, especially the guys, as if it were a good thing.
All the more reason to encourage monogamy with marriage. The problem is the "old" gay culture - the hangover from the days where it was all underground - is still very much alive. Putting homosexual relationships on an equal legal playing field with a pro-monogamy institution is something that will begin to challenge the ways of old. Legal changes often proceed societal ones.
Typical that you would reduce are relationships to mere orgasm. Careful your considerable bias is showing.
Not where I come from - quite the opposite, in fact. Sounds like little more than the usual straight guy with a superiority complex telling gay people what they think.
Yep. And the entirety of his personal experience seems to be his "now gay" friend who never got any as a "heterosexual", yet now gets all the sex he wants. Laughable!
All the gays are secure in their state of denial regarding HIV and men who have sex with men. No wonder unsafe sex ,multiple partners and HIV is so prevalent.
You don't half talk rot. You know how all "the gays" feel about HIV and safe sex do you? Always amusing to see this kind of arrogance.
Bigoted propaganda. You are not in a position to say what the thinking of each and every gay person is on these issues.
No, you're not referring to everyone in this thread either. Nor are you capable of reading our minds. Nor should you make the leap to think thread participants who are gay likely represent all gays. It's these kinds of leaps of logic that underlie your demonstrated prejudice against gay people.
You speak of this as though it's PART of being gay, and not just a consequence of the "culture of gayness" they became part of. The culture can change.
You've really got to be stretching it if you think anything I've said shows me as being one of those "representative gays" in denial about the need for safe sex... In fact, I haven't heard anyone of the gay (or "gay supporters") promoting or passively accepting un-safe sex and promiscuity here.
dixon purposes to vilify homosexuality and homosexual people. I cannot pull anything more from his commentary than that.
