Why are people in the middle east considered white?

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  1. lizarddust

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    I read something some time ago that stated Christ was a man of Middle Eastern appearance,, dark skinned, dark hair and dark eyes. Up until the crusades he was depicted as such. Apparently the church altered his image to look more 'European' as the church was worried soldiers wouldn't kill someone who looked like Christ. Interesting idea.
     
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    What did it mean?
     
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    Dear Lord. How long is this thread and we are still on the same strawman. Blumenbach invented the term Caucasoid to include South Asians and North Africans.
     
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    Modern day UKers are a real mix. Many Irish for example are descendants from Vikings (Dublin was originally a Viking settlement). Welsh, Irish and Scots are descendants of Celts who have their origin in central Europe. Scots are descendent from the Irish (the Scoti). Throw in the Roman invasion and a little later the Germanic Saxons, Angles and Jutes, there are many influences in the UK. Forgot to mention the 'original' Britons (the people who built Stonehenge) before the Celts arrived. Originally crossed the English Channel during the Ice Age from Europe and developed their culture. Modern humans have been living in the UK for tens of thousands of years.

    I have not seen any reference to UKers having their origins in Iraq or Syria.
     
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    Yes, I was aware of that and Blumenbach's stuff about skull measurements, but it seemed to me that it was an attempt to differentiate those who looked like Chinese or Koreans from those who look like Africans from those who looked like Arabs, Greeks etc..
     
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    No it wasn't an attempt to "differentiate". They are of course already differentiated in themselves. It was an attempt to classify, by relatedness. And the result matches the same exercise via genomics, which is pretty cut and dried.
     
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    Yes, "classify" is a much better word.
     
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    Why do so many Persians/Iranians look white, if they are far away from Europe? Did Europeans settle in Iran thousands of years ago?
     
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    It's generally a good idea to be wary of claims that such and such people "look White". Iranians don't look White to me at all, and they aren't.
     
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    How do you know they are light skinned? Most Iraqis are arabs and they are very dark skinned. You cant say its because they intermarried with africa, when iraq is nowhere the red sea near east africa.
     
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    There is the aryan invasion which was caucus Asians invading India and Persia. Also the Greeks conquered Persia, how many settled I don't know.
     
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    Many slaves were taken to Iraq thousands of years ago. These were dark skinned afrikans also known as Israelites. Look up the black community in Basra , Iraq. This is where the heart of ancient Sumer is
     
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    So youre saying the ancient Hebrews were black people? I dont get it.
     
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    dishonest nonsense.

    where did you get such a silly idea? a comic book?
     
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    So where did Caucasian people originate from?
     
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    the white skin gene originated somewhere between the Middle East and northwestern India, 20,000 years ago.

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    the term "Caucasian" is pseudo-science mixed with racism.

    a more appropriate term would be Eurasian, or Euro-Levantine, something that specifies Europe, the Middle East, and Western Asia, where all so-called "Caucasians" are from,
     
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    Why are you lumping together white Europeans in the same category as middle eastern people? Saudis and Iraqis are very dark skinned and not from Europe-what makes them white?
     
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    many Middle Easterners are ligher skinned "Caucasians".

    as are many Persians, Kurds, Assyrians, Indians, Pakistanis, Turks, Turkmen, etc..
     
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    I'm confused about this terminology. Whats the difference between Caucasian and white?
     
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    People in the Middle East are technically "Caucasians". Not white.
    The people of India have partial Caucasian ancestry also, because of ancient migrations that went through Afghanistan.

    In terms of race, some races are more closely related to each other than others.
     
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    Whats the difference between Caucasian and white? I assume they are the same thing because people use them interchangeably.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376185&page=9&p=1064380900#post1064380900

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376185&page=9&p=1064407895#post1064407895

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376185&page=8&p=1064376421#post1064376421

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376185&page=8&p=1064376553#post1064376553

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376185&page=8&p=1064376561#post1064376561

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    Why are you confused after having it explained to you for months?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Note the separation between Greeks and Turks. Jews are mixed and spread in the gap.

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    ASW, people with African ancestry in Southwest United States
    CEU, Utah residents with ancestry from Northern and Western Europe
    CHB, Han Chinese in Beijing, China
    CHS, Han Chinese South, China
    CLM, Colombians in Medellin, Colombia
    FIN, Finnish in Finland
    GBR, British from England and Scotland, UK
    IBS, Iberian populations in Spain
    LWK, Luhya in Webuye, Kenya
    JPT, Japanese in Tokyo, Japan
    MXL, people with Mexican ancestry in Los Angeles, California
    PUR, Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico
    TSI, Toscani in Italia
    YRI, Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria

    Note the three main races and the mixed (MXL, PUR and ASW) spreading between.
     
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    How can one term be "pseudo-science mixed with racism", but another term for the same concept be acceptable? You are talking nonsense. This is a feature of leftist "anti-racism", pointlessly being "offended" about certain words. It's a lame form of attempted censorship.
     
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    Yes.
    What don't you get?
     

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