Why are we a divided Nation?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Hyde Park 63, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Renee

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    Keep not answering! I understand, it’s easier to attack the messenger than to address specific issues. Everything is fake to you...trump has you right where he wants you...unable to see and hear what he says
     
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    First, I am going to post a video; in order to find out what the video is about, you have to watch it.
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    Second, Same sex marriage: it is a farce to give those who have no power over the individual, power over the individual. If two men or two women want to marry, there is NOTHING stopping them, save themselves.

    Third, Division of the nation is a suspicious assumption or idea, because divisions occur throughout humanity; in families, business arrangements, political ideologies, etc.
     
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    Ignored.
     
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    Why?

    No world war that forces ud to be reasonable and of one tribe.
     
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    In a court of law, a store owner/manager cannot be convicted for closing early. And 'closing early' is all that ever needs be said, if anything at all must be said. It's literally impossible.

    Malicious suits may occur, but there is no getting past the legal right to open and close 'the store' whenever you feel like it. Or close it for 10 minutes then re-open. Or say you're closing early, but then changing your mind and staying open. Totally different issue, and nothing whatsoever to do with paranoid people 'imagining' it's all about them. At the end of the day, those private property laws will prevail.

    I suspect that those accused in these malicious suits have said way too much .. or done something inappropriate or borderline illegal. Consider that every business opens and closes their 'store' when they see fit. It's a daily task to refuse trade because doors are closing, or asking people to leave because it's closing time. When you remember that, you grasp the importance of those private property laws.
     
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    If this is your proof, it shows us who you listen to for news and information about current events. This list is a right wing fantasy, it could have been pulled out of Sean Hannity's crib notes for all the accuracy it purports to represent. Anyone over the age of 60 that is an honest person knows that Obama was actually not much different then many centrist Republicans that dominated the party for decades. He was no leftist, he was a pragmatist and saw his actions as stepping stones for the future. That is why he tried so hard to get bipartisan support for his ideas in the first term. I love the guy but he was just too kind hearted to deal with the opposition at the time.
     
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    Lol.
     
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    Christians enjoy legal protection from being denied goods, services, employment, or housing based on their beliefs. What special rights do gay people have?
     
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    But if you can show a pattern of closing the moment a person of a protected class walks in, your goose is cooked. Defending lawsuits can easily cost more than a business makes. You are certainly right about not giving a reason, but that will never stop a lawyer with dollar signs in his eyes. Its only safe if it is a white male under 40.
     
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    We are a divided nation because our political leaders take the easy way out to get publicity. 75% of this nation agrees on 75% of policy. there are the far 1/8 of each side that make noise and most of the politicians make noise to gather support from that 12% closer to thier views.
     
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    How could 'closing the store' be a pattern of anomalous behaviour, when it's done every day? I understand that litigious types will try that crap on, but there's no getting past the necessity for all places of business to close daily .. and even close for short periods within the working day. Any counsel would be fighting that stark reality.
     
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    I am not aware about Affirmative Actions for Christians? If you find that law let me know.
    Homosexuals have marriage benefits even though homosexuality has nothing to do with marriage.
     
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    Interesting piece from NYT last night looking at how Estonia was bright to the brink of civil war by Russian social media influence. They played on existing divisions and ran a hugely successful social media and cyber hacking attack against Estonia in 2007
     
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    I already pointed out the legal protection for Christians.

    Marriage is a religious invention that has evolved/devolved into a simple business contract. As citizens, there is zero difference between a gay married couple and a straight married couple. No one is forcing Dems to buy guns or Reps to marry a member of the same sex. Pursue happiness and stay out of each others business.
     
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    Agreed, the republican party has moved to far to the right from what it was when I was in high School. Rockefeller, Nixon, Dirksken, Brooke, Richardson, Scranton, Romney, Hatfield.

    You go anywhere else in the world mainstream dems are conservatives.
     
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    Exactly, Everybody wants the government to tell people on the other side how to live.
     
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    Estonia! Now there's a Superpower we just don't hear enough from.
     
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    You didn’t answer the question about what laws homosexuals have that heterosexuals don’t. Why is a homosexual marriage different then a heterosexual marriage?
     
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    Or worse - tell Certain People how to live, while everyone else relaxes and continues on as before. IOW, agitate for new and better sources of money to pay for all that relaxing and continuing.
     
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    Yes, unleash the mighty government as long as it doesn't affect you. The problem is the monster you create will still be hungry!
     
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    And those you condemn to funding your relaxing, will very quickly realise it's a mug's game and join you. Then no one's getting fed.

    Of course ... that sort of implication consideration is boring, and doesn't deliver instant warm fuzzies.
     
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    If you think my post was laughable then it tells us one of two things. Either you are very young or you are an old bitter person. Only a young person would deny that Obama was anything but a moderate. Only an old bitter person would ignore it.
     
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    Obama was a leftist radical who played a moderate until he couldn't get his way.

    Only an indoctrinated leftist would think otherwise.
    BLM for example is a leftist extremist group that uses lies to push their agenda and Obama pushed that evil agenda.
    Lying to promote your unpopular agenda is the halmark of leftist ideology.
    Obama was a closet leftist extremist.
    Only differences between him and modern Democrats? They aren't in the closet.
     
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    what do you expect from someone born in Kenya? tell us again about the “evil” agenda.I don’t know if you are aware of it but all you do is state hate lines with nothing to support them and then when confronted you still don’t answer.
     
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    Relaxing? You are making some e-sumptions about me you are not qualified to make. As much as I oppose the big powerful government forcefully confiscating the fruits of my labor to fund laziness, I oppose government interference in the lives of gay people and women with unwanted pregnancies. If you support one form of government power, you condone it all.
     

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