Why aren't feminists complaining that there aren't enough female garbage collectors

Yeah, men have discarded the stigmas of "female dominated jobs" and just go do what pays more. Now if only women decided to do the same thing or stop complaining that their job isn't paying as much as the more dangerous jobs.

 

Be specific as to what you refer to in the highlighted, please.

 

Well, first off you can go with the military requirements. In just about every branch the physical requirements needed for a woman is significantly less than what men need to do to stay in and get good ratings and promotional opportunities. When it comes to physical jobs, men typically have to be there to assists most women on the job. CA passed a law that required at least 1 woman to sit on boards whether they deserved to be there or not.

 

A bit late to the party I know but this literally took a 10 second search; https://ciwm-journal.co.uk/inspiring-woman-improving-gender-equality-in-waste/

If you're so interested in the topic, maybe you should be asking yourself why you're not aware of all the different efforts to promote equality across different fields and industries.

 

That's in the UK right? Is there those programs in the US?

 

https://foresternetwork.com/msw-management-magazine/ms-waste/ms-waste-collection/women-in-waste/

https://www.dailyedge.ie/women-dont-want-to-do-dirty-jobs-3493637-Jul2017/

Results of one more brief search and I’d be surprised if there aren’t similar efforts to my first link in the US – we’re really not that different in this context. My point is that maybe the OP should have checked before making assumptions and they would have had something to base a solid discussion on. Unless, of course, they didn’t really want a discussion at all and were just masking an assertion behind a faux question.

 

Thank you for the clarification.
I agree that most women are not the physical equals of men, but depending on the specifics necessary for a particular position, especially like the military when people's lives depend on the physical capabilities, then no bar should be lowered. Women in intellectual positions in the military, I'm all for it.

Non military, again, women are not usually a match for men in physical activities, hence the probability of a lower pay for those positions. Not to say there are some women who can do it all, better and faster, and those who prove their ability should be making the same as anyone else at that level.

The days of automatically reducing pay on a position just because it's a female, should be long gone. Unfortunately, there are a number of people/companies/industries that still treat women as lesser beings. Laws aren't going to change that situation, but people with wallets can.

 

No, not for a long time in the history of our country. Women started getting into medical schools after title nine and they became a tremendous shortage of nurses. You might even notice more and more men are going into nursing as well.
And teachers and social workers are not always government jobs,think sanitation workers deserve more?

 

What you don’t seem to understand is that the bar was much lower for many competing against other men. They did have to compete against over 50% of the population. Or do you really believe that they weren’t women and people of color who were smarter than they were. If you have to compete against 1000 people it’s much easier than if you have to compete againstt 2000 . You also act as the women aren’t competing against men but we are and it’s bothering you because you don’t have the whole pie do your self

 

Wow how self loathing that sounds .You seem to think like such an extremist that if women want equality you assume they want dominance. If women want equality You assume they want to control.
It’s interesting that you are a female because I have been doing prejudice workshops for 25 years and 25 years ago women were terrified of equality and would put down the women fighting for their rights.You say you see women as president of the bank and CPAs etc. You didn’t see that in the 70s. Women couldn’t even get credit cards in their own names that they were married. You see all these things because of women all of my generation who for damn hard. What I enjoy now is the young women I meet Are grateful to the people who,paved the road for them...Or do you think women’s equality happened in a vacuum because men said it’s OK?
I also have to laugh when you say I am blaming others for my position. Do you even know what my position is? But you are assuming because I am a woman and speak up for women’s rights I am not successful. I can tell you one thing and that I am pretty sure is that in the eyes of most I am extremely successful. I Make more in one speech than I made in a month teaching. ..that is if money is a criteria. More than money I have touched the lives of thousands of young people

 

Oh, brilliant. Exactly what is 'self loathing' in my statement? That I don't agree with you and your supposed activism for 'equality' that already exists? Why do you hate men so much that you have a need to demand that they bend to you?

And 25 years later, you expect kudos for something you claim you did, all by your lonesome. I suppose that someone who believes they need to take credit for something that was already occurring, is one way to feel that 'rowr' of female satisfaction. The problem is, you still feel that women aren't equal. News flash.... we are.

Congratulations! I'm sure you worked hard for it. And, you seem to have assumed that I actually had to think about what your position was, when you have made that abundantly clear. If you think 'money' is the yard stick by which 'success' is judged, then congratulations again, I hope your money and righteous woman strength keeps you warm at night. You've made it more than clear that you still feel women don't have equal rights, and your constant barrage on men completes the picture.

 

I love your extremism .. “why do you hate men so much that you need them to bend to you?” That’s so funny. But at least you’ll make points with the boys since you know your place. Insecure men love women like you
And another extremism... I want kudos for something” I did by my lonesome.” ? lol...me and millions of others men and women .. who recognized discrimation and took action while women like you out us down
And another extremism…” another problem is I don’t feel women are equal” Women are still paid less than men for comparable work. I bet you just hate the me too movement. Too feminist for you. After all we’re equal so it’s ok for men to grope us

 

Considering you called my post 'self loathing', I thought you would appreciate a pointless, unfounded insult also. Apparently not.

"Know my place'? Yeah, your continued attempts to try and paint me as something other than who and what I am, are getting old and thin. But, apparently it bolsters your ego to believe that anyone who doesn't agree with you is something 'less'. That will get you far in life, I'm sure. I do not 'cut people down'. I support everyone's right to protest, or take action to correct what they view as wrong, as long as they don't violate other's rights. Your attempts to martyr yourself on all women's behalf, portrays exactly what it is

Your assumptions regarding the 'me too' movement are also incorrect, though you believe that women must follow a herd mentality in order to get something out in public. Some women, those who are confident and understand their worth, while having sympathy, and some empathy, for those who aren't strong enough to address things on their own, also understand the difference between actual, real sexual assault and or harassment, and someone making them feel 'uncomfortable'. Seriously, they have successful redefined what sexual harassment is, and devalued those women who have gone through it, in their attempt to be 'all inclusive victimhood'.

 

Geez what a shocker you don’t support #me too... tell me how defining sexual-harassment devalues women who have gone through it. The word victim is not a dirty word. I was the victim of sexual assault. My daughter was a victim of rape. I was a victim of sexual harassment as were millions and millions of women. Let’s blame the victims for not standing up and showing how confident they were. One in six women has been sexually assaulted and until this movement it was mostly a secret and not believed like you are implying . And I guess it’s just perfectly fine with you if men make women feel uncomfortable. It isn’t OK with me. No man should make me feel uncomfortable. In my prejudice workshops men ask me how to handle certain situations and I will ask them, “would you tell another man how hot he looks those pants.” Would you rub a guys shoulders while he’s working? Etc. treat a woman with the same respect
You are a person who obviously is an extremist because you described me over and over with the most ridiculous extremist terms. You seem to see only in black and white.
—— no, “I do t believe women should follow a herd mentality “
——no} it doesn’t bolster my ego that people who disagree with me are less”
—-no “ i do not martyr myself on behalf of women”

 

And off you go again.... where did I say I don't support 'metoo'? You reading what you want to read, rather than what is actually written is getting old, quickly. REdefine. They now include 'he made me uncomfortable'. Either it was sexual harassment, or it wasn't. It's not a 'maybe' subject.

I've been through sexual harassment, and I dealt with it at the time it happened. Not everyone is made of the same stuff, and if you'd care to read what I wrote, actually READ it, then you would see that.

While I view very few things in black and white only, I also know when someone is pulling every possible imagined infraction into being 'harassment'.

 

Did you read the article?

Here's a quote from your article"


"Talking to one of our female RCV drivers, she believes women often do not have the confidence to compete for and take on a job in an industry they believe is male dominated and dirty."

 

Women in Waste - Forester Network



https://foresternetwork.com/...management...waste/ms-waste-collection/women-in-wast...


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Statistics from the US Bureau of Labor Stats and Census in 2010 indicate that women comprised only 1% of that work force. Surveys conducted last year indicate that there's been little progress in the five-year interim—about 99% of garbage collectors in this country are still men.

 

One percent or less of garbage collectors are women. So are you ready for a, serious discussion? I doubt you are.

Williams: Equality means female trash collectors - Amarillo Globe-News



www.amarillo.com/opinion/opinion...04.../equality-means-female-trash-collectors


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Apr 22, 2014 - According to 2010 BLS data, the following jobs contain 1 percent or less female workers: boilermakers, brick masonry, stonemasonry, septic tank servicing, sewer pipe cleaners and trash collectors.

 

I don’t understand why women don’t aspire to be septic tank cleaners and sewer pipe cleaners and trash collectors. They’re so dumb they go to college to be stockbrokers and accountants and doctors and lawyers. Look what they’re missing (sarcasm alert)
Why aren’t there more men teaching first grade?
What is sad is that you think the word equal means the same and it doesn’t

 

I wasn't questioning the fact of there being a low proportion of women in these kind of jobs, I was questioning the idea that "feminists" aren't talking about and seeking to change it.

 

It's good to get your hands calloused, dirty, and greasy for the good money.

 

That's for sure.


Feminism is not an equality movement at all. It's our ages politically correct supremacist hate movement like the KKK in the South at the turn of the 19th century.

Is that a picture of the Midgard serpent in your avatar?

 

If that's a picture of the Midgard Serpent in your avatar shame on you for promoting sexism.

In the 7th century while women were treated like property in Christian kingdoms, in Vikingdom women were treated as equals.

They were warriors, earls, explorers... et cetera

You are no Viking.

 

We choose our battles. Women don’t usually want to do construction work. But they should be allowed to if they are physically capable.why should we fight to do it? It sounds more like a male issue so maybe you should start a movement

 

Actually it sounds like you are the one upset and perhaps you should fight for fewer men in construction. Women don’t want to be the same as men but we want to be equal. We are not the same and we don’t profess to be. If you wanna dig cesspools go ahead