Why Beauty Is Not Shallow

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    Nah. Men are only attracted to pretty females and it really does not matter much whether she is a bum or the bloody POTUS herself. :D
     
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    The West is a beautiful culture where we do not value individuals for their exterior - A beautiful murderer is always less valued than an ugly nurse, to take an extreme. Anyone who believes anything else is either incredibly ignorant, has an ideological agenda or is just projecting their own racism and sexism onto everyone else.

    Is that their own perceptions of beauty or is it their interpretation of societal norms? Either way, it realky makes me wonder what age group you are working with because "slim and big boobs" soumds like the kind of thing either a 12 year old boy or a low class, 'White Trash' kind of person would value.

    BS. If you ask a straight female what she is attracted to, she will describe male characteristics and if you ask a straight male, he will give you female characteristics. Eitner you are very bad at phrasing your questions to your group or you are just here sharing lies.
     
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    I tend to agree. Men aren't often gold diggers, although some are. But if a man is attracted to a woman it's not because she's rich even if she is. He may say that when he's talking to her.

    If it was the case that men were attracted to women for being wealthy then we would see women that are CEOs or really ambitious lawyers just as much as men.
     
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    Well it's not that it's not masculine it's that it's not real. I would say men being gold diggers is not masculine.

    But if men were attracted to women because of their wealth and success women would be driven to wealth and success just like men are. There wouldn't be entire industries centered around women's products that makes them feel beautiful or look beautiful.

    so no I don't think it's very normal or very likely for a man to be attracted to a woman because of her success outside of gold digging.
     
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    Oh well...the point went right over your head. By the way it was adolescent boys.
     
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    That is very sad that you think men attracted to successful women or only golddiggers.. I don’t think most men I know what that shallow
     
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    And you are equating the minds of children to those of society as a whole?
     
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    In English, please.
     
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    Where do you think attitudes originate from ?and adolescents are not little children
     
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    Sorry I dictated and didn’t check it.
    I said that it is very sad that to think men who are attracted to successful women are golddiggers. the men I know are not that shallow.
     
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    This is a very complex question, but in short, they originate from the interaction between people and their struggle to adapt to the challenges of nature.

    Of course they are. Both legally and mentally.
     
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    Well, that is the very definition of golddigger. You are basicalky saying that not all circles are round.

    Good for you and for them.
     
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    I think it said the only way you can describe successful is by being rich. There are millions of people that are middle-class I would consider them successful but not you apparently.
     
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    Legally they are minors....they are not little children, that’s why they are called adolescents .
     
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    Whoever said the only way you can do describes successes is by being rich? I consider myself very successful but my successes haven’t made me rich. Though they could if I chose.
     
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    It seemed you were.

    Generally speaking men are attracted to women for their beauty particularly their youthfulness. That's biology. You can say no ensure there are outliers, but I'm sorry generally speaking men are attracted to women for their beauty.
     
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    I don't think men who are attracted to successful women are gold diggers. I think gold diggers are gold diggers.

    To associate attraction to successful people with gold digging means that is what you think gold diggers are.

    If you don't know what I'm talking about just ask.
     
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    Men and women are indeed attracted to beauty.
    First of all my husband was not rich when I met him and married him so I guess I’m not a Golddigger.
    I made a lot of money on my book and my speeches and I can tell you that people who were not attracted to me before , were.
     
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    You overgeneralize the word golddiggers. That’s a very broad term for a very small group of people.You don’t know peoples motivations. Golddiggers are devious and have an ulterior your motive.
     
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    no I think men and women want different things out of each other. Think about the industry of woman's beauty. Think about how much money you can make selling makeup to women. Now think about men's beauty product.


    a man or a woman does not have to be rich in order to attract a gold digger. All they really have to be is ambitious and not absolutely broke.

    So if you're not a gold digger are you so butt hurt about gold diggers? Shouldn't you detest that behavior? Someone using their spouse are significant other to bankroll their lives?
    oh suddenly it makes sense. You attracted male feminists. Maybe they were different the 70s but now these seem like incel types that are praying on feminists.
     
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    when how? You didn't even ask what I meant you just assumed. And you assumed it meant men or women that go out with wealthy and successful people.

    You over generalized and then projected it onto me.

    no it's a very specific term meaning a very specific behavior. Behavior is not people.

    their motivations aren't important it's the behavior that is. And if people have no idea when they're being taken advantage of we wouldn't call scam artist scam artist we would call the me sir or ma'am.
     
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    You’re the one using the term golddiggers not me. That’s your obsession.I just think your definition of the word Golddigger is asinine. If someone marry somebody who they do not care about just for money yes that would be a Golddigger.I just think your definition of the word Golddigger is asinine,
    By the way my book came out in 2000 and I still Keynote .Who is that I attractive male feminists? It was both males and females who would flatter me so much.What is your hangup with equality for women?
     
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    Wow...you sound suspicious of everyone, must be scary for you
     
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    It's a very specific term describing a behavior. You tried to say it was a broad term describing people.

    Discussing something that occurs in culture does not equate to an obsession.

    so you don't think people behaving in a certain way is aa Behavior? Because that's how I defined it.

    I think the only difference between your definition in the one that I would use is that they don't have to necessarily get married.

    that's kind of a dumb reason to say a definition is asinine


    I am an egalitarian I believe in equality of opportunity. I don't care if your female or if your male black homosexual transgendered.

    Why do you have to fabricate this hatred?
     
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    You don't have to be suspicious of everyone to know when you're being taken advantage of. Unless you think suspicious means simply not being naive.
     

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