Why Being an SJW is Really About Dominating Other People

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  1. Ming the Merciless

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    It's just so obvious that being an SJW is really about dominating other people. It goes like this:
    1. Agree with all of my politics or you're a nazi.
    2. My politics micromanage every part of life, down to things you may not even realize you're doing (language, micro-aggressions).
    3. Since you don't have a degree in gender studies and the ability to argue with me in my own dialogue, the only way you can be in compliance is to totally submit to me, in every possible way.

    I honestly wonder if this isn't some kind of cosmic joke, since the path to this form of ultimately impotent social power is essentially to debase and therefore dis-empower oneself as much as possible.

    Icing on the cake:
    4. Not having coherent policy proposals or goals beyond taking from those who disagree.
    5. Not following the same standards of "niceness" and patience when dealing with anyone who isn't in full compliance, even though as mentioned before, full compliance is essentially impossible for most people, which I believe was actually the subconscious goal from the beginning.
    6. Ubiquitous double standards with an openly "political" aim and a shameless obsession with their own "empowerment", essentially as a presumption that their own wants (often in the form of personal sexual desires) and justice are completely synonymous with each other.
     
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    Sorry I missed this post.

    Well thought out, and probably all true.
     
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    We are talking about Single Jewish Women, right?
     
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    "Minorities need me to be offended on their behalf, they just aren't intelligent enough to realize it"
    SJWs...the 'heroes' no one needed...the 'heroes' no one asked for.

    A new 'outrage' under every stone, leave none unturned, that would clearly, be 'wayciss'.
     
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    Social Justice Warrior

    And I do agree. The best example of those sorts of people is the recent Disney movie of Moana.

    Disney went to the Polynesian islands and pitched the film to them. There was a council of Polynesian Elders (not an official council, but a council of varying elders who wanted to help Disney make a good story) who were part of the development of the script. They approved it saying that while there are no stories of Maui doing what was in the script...would likely have been something that he would have done.

    They were well pleased with the story and were thrilled at the final product.

    Enter some SJW from some university in Utah who was screaming that the movie is a steaming pile of disrespect-ridden, culture-bashing feces. When it was brought to this guy’s attention that it was developed with the guidance of the Polynesian Elder council...he said that they were to ignorant of their own culture to know when they were being disrespected.

    And that’s why I dislike most SJWs since it’s their way or the highway and if you disagree, you’re an ignorant, racist, [insert string of slurs here] who needs to be locked away in some re-education facility until your opinion mirrors theirs.
     
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    It's all fun and games right up until they start windmill slapping at you and you break their jaw for them.
     
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    Painted with a very broad brush...sure there are excesses in any push to change society's perceived wrongs. It is inevitable. See the anti-abortion crusaders, abolitionists, civil rights protesters as examples but that does not delegitimize their intent as you would have it.
     
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    So all the laws on the books are due to SJW?

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    I prefer social justice red mage :)
     
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    Exactly, that's a phenomenon that Nietzsche described.


    If I'm not wrong, I'm no expert about Nietzsche, he considered there was two kind of morale :
    Master's morale, which was about elevating oneself and setting it as an example and
    Slave's morale which is about shaming other people.

    Basically, Master's morale is about improving yourself, when slave morale is about controlling other people.

    Nietzsche considered christianity as slave's morale. I suppose that stoïcism is a good example of master's morale.

    It's interesting that kind of mass paranoia already happened, many times under religious excuse. We could speak for instance of victorian puritanism or about the which hunt, however, there is many other instances of that.
     
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    Every change in law would fall under the slave morale. Stoicism doesnt teach people how to handle their emotions, it just teaches people to ignore them which is unhealthy as emotions are inseparable from the human experience with some exceptions, ex. Sociopathy.
     
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    I dont mind having a modicum of patience to explain some things but i rarely see honest dialogue coming from this whole anti sjw thing which got old around 2015. I left that whole anti sjw thing for a multitude of reasons.
     
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    Law isn't about morality, it's about rules.
    Furthermore, stoicism don't teach to ignore emotions. There is a difference between putting at distance your emotions and ignoring them.
     
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    Putting them at a distance even will leave one poorly capable of handling emotions when they hit. It teaches people to bottle them up and not express themselves, sort of like the 50s ideal family type which encouraged people to not talk about what troubles them. It seems more of a facade that places unrealistic expectations on people. With that said, sure there are things we need to learn that enable us to handle our emotions better. We certainly base many of our laws on morality, even the things we believe should be a human right. We believe these things because we have a moral understanding and an understanding of justice.
     
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    I lived extreme depression starting early childhood, I overcame it and I can claim I'm cured of depression, when many people stay with it all their life. That doesn't make me the ultimate expert on the topic, but I'm aware that I survived where many people died of suicide.
    Stoician teaching helped me a lot, more than a lot of therapists. I must admit that I largely prefered Epictetus stoicism to Seneca stoicism, as I found the later less adapted, maybe because it encouraged more to endure things in a masochist way, even if I rather liked some passages of "De Brevitate vitae".
    Did you ever red either Epictetus, Seneca or Marcus Aurelius ? Or are you speaking just of the common definition of stoicism ?
    At the opposing of bottling up, stoicism tend to teach to observe your own emotions, and stoician teaching is whole about to speak of emotions and how to deal with them.
    Considering expressing your emotions, completely bottling them is stupid, but the all "just express your feelings" is non-sense, it will just be used by malevolent people against you.

    Over moralism in laws end to disasters like the alcohol prohibition in the US (that just give power to the mafia), or to death penalty for blasphemy like it exist in many countries in the world.
    We could have long discussions about laws, but I'm mostly an utilitarian when it comes to law.
     
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    Yes, it absolutely does. It's never healthy to encourage the indulgence of any/all emotions carte blanche. Those we can allow are the externally prompted (not self-generated or chronic) and transient moments of fear, anger, grief, joy. The normal animal responses to life events.

    On that, we all need constant reminding to stay in touch with our animal nature .. and our animal nature is NOT 'emotions', it's the business of survival.
     
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    The idea is to learn to MANAGE your emotions, and a big part of that IS ignoring them. It's actually incredibly important to have that skill.
     
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    Why do you think it was an 'ideal'? Was there less depression? Less addiction? Less suicide?

    The problem is (and has always been), encouraging people to think they actually have troubles, when they clearly don't. If you have three meals a day and roof over your head, you have no business indulging self-pity without provocation.
     
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    explains why all the popular people are limousine liberals playing semantics and distancing themselves from normies.
     
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    Why Being an SJW is Really About Dominating Other People

    Did anyone ever think it was otherwise?
     
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    Men's brains don't mature until they're 25 years old, that's just a fact that their prefrontal cortex is not yet fully developed. That's the part of the brain that helps a human to inhibit impulses and to put a check on their own behavior. It's because of this lack of impulse control that time after time, we witness mass shootings and murders committed by males 25 and younger. An immature male brain may feel more defensive, be more impulsive, have commitment issues and don't own up to their mistakes. A male whose brain hasn't fully developed yet may feel alone and seclude himself from others. Of course this isn't the case for all males, but for those that have a late developing brain, it's logical they would exhibit these behaviors and actually put themselves in harms way when a more psychologically mature person can think more critically and make decisions more rationally as to what the best choice is, either turn away from harm, confront it or cause it.
     

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