Why can't we have a childless gay marriage?

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    What "theist studies" would those be?

    Last time I looked at a study it said that kids do better with 2 parental role models but it really doesn't matter who fills those roles.

    It could be the natural father and his gay lover or the natural mother and her mother. Any combination works and they don't even have to be related as long as they love the child unconditionally.
     
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    Mods, please close this thread. My initial question was answered, and defending gay adoption is, honestly, off topic.

    My question was on whether you could separate the issue of adoption from the issue of marriage, and the response is clearly no. The thread is over.
     
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    It has been shown both ways. Marriage is not necessary to adoption nor is any particular combo of genders as parents necessary.

    Besides, you don't get to close a thread nor deem it needed to be closed. Only mods do that and only if they feel a necessity. This thread willl stay open as long as it is active.
     
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    Please post your credentials in child psychology

    Then please answer this:

    What should be done about the couple of million kids who are currently in the care of gay people? Additionally, how EXACTLY would you go about preventing gay people from having children??

    If not being able to have children ("in the usual way") means that it is "unnatural" to raise kids, is it also "unnatural for straight people who can't have kids to raise kids?

    How exactly is a single parent home the equivalent to a same sex couple home in terms of the experience of the child? Please provide links to the scientific literature that supports that.

    And consider this:

    Gay people are not sterile or "baron" and they most certainly can have children

    We do indeed allow single people to adopt children. Where exactly do you get your information from?
     
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    Why can't we have a childless gay marriage?

    We already do. We also have childless hetero marriage.
     
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    That's good. How long do you want to "sit back" for ? Gay folks have been raising children for a very long time and adoption by gays has been legal in some state for decades. It has not failed yet. When do you think that it will?
     
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    I think OP is right that a male and female couple are the 'optimal' parents for a child, from the psychological developement perspective. But given the number of drug addicted, mentally ill, financially irresponsible and/or just plain stupid or uncaring 'traditional' couples there are, theres no reason to expect or enforce the 'optimum' situation. Responsible, loving gay couples are a hundred times better than a mentally ill, uncaring, irresponsible traditional couple or a well-meaning but over-burdened single parent.

    Children will find roll models outside the household anyway, and often do even when they have the perfect ones at home. Extended family, school, church, family friends are all sources where children can (and will) find roll models outside home.

    The most important things that children need to become healthy, functional adults are love, patience and acceptance, and theres nothing that prevents gay couples from providing these.
     
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    That's for the mods to decide.
     
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