Why did trump lose?

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Why did Trump lose?

  1. 7 million more Americans preferred his opponent, giving him 306 electoral votes.

    92.0%
  2. GOP governors, attorneys general, secretaries of state, judges, etc. colluded in a vast conspiracy.

    8.0%
  3. His goons who attacked Congress were poorly disciplined and incompetent.

    8.0%
  4. The goons' failure to lynch Pence was the ultimate determinant.

    4.0%
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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The "parallels" are the product of liars and the historically ignorant.
     
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    Then Joe would have been paid and not his son.

    Donald's children are adults and able to do business on their own. Just like Joe's son. Nothing wrong with that. :)
     
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  3. Natty Bumpo

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    An excellent analysis. Independents appear to assume a more determinative role in times of hyper-partisan divisiveness.

    Many, obviously, were still willing to endure Trump's lying, his bullying, his rude and childish behavior, his grievance-driven agenda, and his egomaniacal temperament, but his defining crisis and his consummate failure to provide capable leadership in confronting Covid-19 may have convinced an ample sufficiency to want to dump him.

    His abandoning that leadership in the waning days of his regime, and his discouraging his followers from mailing in ballots didn't help his lost cause.


    Of course, his lashing out afterwards and irrationally blaming others only underscored his blustering insecurities and impotence in accepting responsibility..

     
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    I firmly believe Trump beat himself. He made choices that were not favorable. He made large statements that didn't resonate with the majority. He aligned himself with people who were not respected. He, truly, has no one to blame but himself - but because he can't do that, he will trot out the old chestnut that he was cheated.
     
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    Any very short answer to why Trump lost will be oversimplifying things a bit, but most significantly, Trump lost because he trolled and demonized liberal leaning voters rather than trying to win them over. It got his base enthused, but it also got the Dems base enthused, and Dems base was always bigger. Trump won in 2016 because liberal supporters were so unenthused about the Dems that they couldn't be bothered to get out to vote. By 2020, Trump had enthused them enough for them to put Biden into office.

    Biden has been avoiding direct criticism of conservative voters, which should help him avoid getting conservative voters motivated, but makes it harder to motivate his own base.
     
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    Much simpler than that. He lost because he has a disagreeable personality.
     
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    It was both an overwhelming number of votes for Biden and also the delegates who voted for Biden, like Hillary Clinton in New York State.

    Of course, the siege of the Capitol building by Trump supporters didn't help Trump's case for being president in another term any.
     
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    scripted by the deep state

    stolen election

    covid
     
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    Of which there is zero evidence

    Do you know what we call that?
     
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    Deep State? Non existent!
    Stolen election? Disproven over, and over, and over, and over!
    Covid? One out of three is great for your kind of wacko. Covid was definitely a part of why Trump was defeated, but certainly not all of it.
     
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    Good stuff.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    By the time of the election you could have hung a bag of horse hockey on a tree with a sign saying “not Trump” and people would have voted for it
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    Propaganda Alert!
    Not a smart move.
    A couple of Gulf states caught between the increasingly polarized Middle East (division the Orange Oaf made worse) and a gift of U.S. support to Morocco for their grab of the Western Sahara. No wonder it hasn't gone anywhere. The Liar might have been nominated by his supporters, but he won't get it.
    Desperately needed, no. Useful, yes. But then there's the personal tax cut, 85% of which went to people making $400,000 a year. Candidate Trump said he wouldn't cut rates on the top bracket, then he did.
    While continuing to employ illegals himself.
    No "deal" required.
    :roflol:
    Yes. If we had even done as well as Canada fighting covid, we would have lost 200,000 Americans, not 543,000. That's incompetent.
    Exactly--and you still support that pig.

    Alabama - 4,921,532 people, 10,436 covid dead
    British Columbia - 5,153,039 people, 1,437 covid dead

    Why do many dead in Alabama, a state more rural than British Columbia?
     
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    Australia - 909 covid deaths
    USA - 556,014 covid deaths
     
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    Trump lost for a number of reasons. The one that hurt him the most was the COVID response and it’s effect on the economy.
     
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    I am convinced 1) he never wanted the job to begin with and 2) he went out of his way to tank the re-election without making it look like he was tanking his own candidacy. The man committed more unforced errors than MLB did in 2020.
     
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    trump lost because a majority of voters didn't like him and ignored his accomplishments. Popularity is the key to success in politics, not experience or ability.
     
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    Actually I think he lost BECAUSE of his "accomplishments", which are summed up in a description of him as the worst excuse for a president we've ever had. And included are 30,000 lies, enormous damage to the country by a pandemic that he worsened by ignoring and lying about it, and obvious continual efforts to transform the USA into a Trump dictatorship.
     
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    "Deep state": a right wing conspiracy theory developed because of an inability to gain popularity honestly.

    There is no evidence of the election having been "stolen" in any way. But sore losers are clearly a problem. However, if you want additional safeguards against attacks on our right to a free and fair and safe election, push your senators to vote for HR1. A full 70% of Americans, including a MAJORITY of republicans, like and prefer HR1.

    FINALLY, the one true thing you said.
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    There are not enough angry white people who could care less about America to re-elect him. That is the bottom line. Sure each and every one of them thinks they care deeply about America but they don't really. All they care about is themselves, their families and their tribe. The rest of America is the enemy to them. How did they get this way? Decades of right wing media taught them this stuff, Trump was just the inevitable candidate that made all those ditto heads feel like anointed patriots. Throw in some old fashioned religion hiding itself in outright hatred, racism and ignorance and you have the 70 million down to a tee.
     
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    The real majority did the right thing and voted the right person and that what was needed.
     

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