Why didn't Trump ask the January 6th rioters to stand down earlier?

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  1. Across the pond

    Across the pond Well-Known Member

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    I wrote in another thread that the hours from the start of the violence on January 6th until Trump finally told people to go home made it seem like he wasn't unhappy that the rioters had invaded the Capitol. This was met with indignation. But when I asked why else he would delay asking people to leave I got no answer. In fact, I've never seen a good answer to that question. So, does anyone have such an answer?
     
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    You already know the answer. They were doing EXACTLY what he intended for them to do and he was reportedly angry they didn't finish the job.

    • That's why he ignored the mob attacking Capitol police officers and refused to get them back-up (which is dereliction of duty).

    • That's why he ignored the pleas of the lawmakers barricaded in offices knowing the Capitol police couldn't help them because they had been attacked by the angry mob outside.

    • That's why he ignored calls from Ivana, Pence and Pelosi to ask them to stop what they were doing.

    • That's why he stalled on reading the forced statement to distance himself from them.

    • That's why he defended their "Hang Pence" chants and actions.

    • That's why he and Giuliani called Senator Lee (while they were being ushered to safety) to stop the certification.

    • That's why he was disappointed that Pence's security got him to safety before the building was breached.

    • That's why he was disappointed in the rioters for not accomplishing their goal (he wanted Pence hurt. He still wants Pence hurt because he's a psychopath).

    • That's why he's a loser that deserved to be fired, has a mass exodus of decent people with integrity and should rot in prison until the end of his miserable life.
     
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    I don't think anybody on the right has an answer because it will be debunked in the hearings... I think they'll go into that next week, or the week after. Not sure.

    But we already know the reason. Not only was he not unhappy, but he was VERY happy. We know this thanks to "Anonymous Sources". And so far, Mr. Anonymous Sources has been spot on about everything.
     
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    I seem to remember that he got a message out in about 30 minutes. One has to wonder at that point how much difference it would make. How would he get it out to the rioters? It's not like they were walking around with their noses in their phones. Once a mob reaches that stage I'm not sure there was any thing anyone could do.
     
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    Can anyone prove where he was?
    Why was he not on the Capitol steps like he said?
     
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    And most incriminating from a legal perspective. That's why he posted the same speech he made that induced the violence on Facebook ,instead of rushing to stop the violence. He wanted 'reenforcements' to arrive and help
     
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    He tried to give assistance before there was a problem. Then they expect him to magically make the problem go away after the fact? After they decided they didn't want his help? No I don't think so. In fact when he tried to tweet them to stop, Twitter banned him. It seems like the left wanted this to happen so that they had great PR and to make people forget all the left wing riots. It's the only thing that makes sense.

    Why cannot the left answer why the help Trump offered was rejected and why Trump was silenced when he tried to tweet them to stop and be peaceful, we are the party of 'law and order' ?
     
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    Errrrr

    I think you had better review your timeline and what help?
     
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    It really, really bothers me that EVERYONE on the planet did not turn their back on him after the Capitol riot. There is absolutely NO reason on Earth to make apologies for what went down that day. He willfully lied to those people and put a target on our VP. That's way, way out of bounds even in dirty politics. If he wasn't a blowhard with $ (he stole from others), his crazy demented fat @ss would be sectioned in a psychiatric hospital.

    And they want to whitewash it to a kegger gone bad? <censoring myself>.
     
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    You can't prove one bit of that... but feel free to provide proof... you choose, any or all.
     
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    Ivanka may just do that yet. I have o ways said that the minute she or Jared are threatened because of him he will spend the rest of his days in a home fir the permanently bewildered
     
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    There ought to be an investigation or sumptin
     
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    Most of has been proven by testimony including that of Ivanka and Jared but what is more important is what he did not do
     
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    I gave you multiple reasons. Just because you didn’t like those reasons is irrelevant.

    The idea you’ve asked some gotchya question that no one can answer is demonstrably fallacious.

    Just like your argument.
     
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    Protesters should have simply listened to police that day. Then things wouldn't have gotten out of hand.
     
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    What are you talking about? Within 26 minutes of the protestors breaching the Capitol the president put out a comment saying to be peaceful and then no violence.
     
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    Lol damn you might have a stroke when he wins in 2024 lol
     
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    ~ There was really no reason to be concerned " earlier " — as a few dozen people in costumes were ushered into the Capitola by police and a few thousand mulled around outside. Later a few hundred raised a ruckus on the steps and a cop shot an unarmed woman inside for no legitimate reason. People believed to be with BLM / Antifa were seen changing clothes and later protesting.
    No bombs. No guns. No arson. No fire extinguisher beating. No police officers killed.
    Very suspicious circumstances with much misinformation peddling by network "news" that painted a very different scenario than reality. Fortunately many spectators and independent journalists took cellphone video which is available to view .
     
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    Show us what was so damning in the Ivanka and Jared testimony... who cross examined them?
     
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    ~ The police let the " protesters" into the Capitol.
     
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    Here is the very moment the police incited the peaceful protesters into a frenzy... flashbangs, tear gas, pepper spray, and the all time favorite pummeling a protester with their fists ( a little later in the video)...
    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/st...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/


    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1421942908954062853

    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/

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    Then why are there videos of protesters and police clashing?
     
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    I don't know if that would appease the sun gods. She's just as awful. Wasn't she the one that made her SS use a bathroom at a nearby gas station? She has her manufacturing company in China to exploit little kids and elderly women. I know it's awful but I wish he infected the whole lot of them with COVID and they all succumbed. That is the best thing he can do for the country. At least we know his dyed-in-the-wool supporters wouldn't have to lose any sleep as they shrugged off those deaths because millions of Americans dead is "no big deal". /smdh
     
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    Funny how he wanted more security in DC but, was denied. The Elite wanted there to be an "Insurrection" most likely carried out by shooting innocents with teargas+pepper spray and using the same FEDs that were part of the Governor's abduction to come in masked to incite a riot. Strange how many of the people smashing windows look nothing like the norm in a Trump rally and were never engaged for the most part.
     
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    The barriers were first breached at 1:30 but his video asking people to leave came at 4:13. He was already talking repeatedly to his followers via twitter so that would have seemed an obvious route (there's even video of someone reading one of his tweets out via a bullhorn)
     
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