why didn't trump nuke china?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Rampart, Sep 17, 2021.

  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,031
    Likes Received:
    23,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You didn't read his first sentence starting with "If"? Now, you can yell "Trump rant", or you could actually think about the question that he posed. Which one is easier?
     
    Rampart, MJ Davies and FreshAir like this.
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You know so much that isn’t true!

    Trump worked hard to thwart China’s Belt and Road policy. You should do some reading about that sometime.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  3. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,302
    Likes Received:
    9,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The liberal media, the liberal TV talking heads, the democrats, all claimed Cowboy Reagan was going to start a nuclear war. Then the same people were saying the same about Uncouth Bush. Then the same people were saying the same about Deranged Trump. I can't remember the last time we had a nuclear war. Much less one started by a republican president. But it sounds ominous and scares the unthinking democrats to vote for the empty suits.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  4. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,206
    Likes Received:
    37,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or you could address the topic and not other posters, but we know how it goes here..
     
    19Crib likes this.
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,023
    Likes Received:
    19,312
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because he is not stupid.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  6. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2021
    Messages:
    5,647
    Likes Received:
    5,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because it wasn’t overt.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  7. 21Bronco

    21Bronco Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2020
    Messages:
    15,623
    Likes Received:
    9,299
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Okay, but this is about China, not the other red herring you're dragging into the discussion.

    Plus, you have to factor into the equation China is far larger than Iraq or Afghanistan.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,185
    Likes Received:
    62,819
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump was working for them

    [​IMG]
     
    Rampart likes this.
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    58,376
    Likes Received:
    4,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Likely a bioweapon accident, not an attack.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  10. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    58,376
    Likes Received:
    4,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How did he do that? Almost wars dont count.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  11. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Soleimani. You really don't know this?
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2021
  12. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Messages:
    13,003
    Likes Received:
    3,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The notion of the virus coming from the Wuhan lab does not mean that it was a bioweapon attack. You seem to be falsely making the assumption that when people mention it coming from the lab, that they are saying it is a bioweapon. That assumption is patently false.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  13. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Messages:
    13,003
    Likes Received:
    3,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When exactly did Trump state that it was a bioweapon released on purpose?
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  14. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    27,905
    Likes Received:
    10,505
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What a weird thread that within one sentence:

    1. Injects Trump (TDS on display)

    2. Suggests Trump is a tough guy, which is really just another childish insult

    3. Injects "godless" with communism, almost as a rhetorical support of communism

    4. Suggests that mutual destruction is desirable through the word "required"


    Have you been drinking already?
     
    19Crib and ButterBalls like this.
  15. Turd in the Punch Bowl

    Turd in the Punch Bowl Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2021
    Messages:
    805
    Likes Received:
    125
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Well I’ve had a conspiracy that China unleashed the virus on purpose but it’s not from racist mindset like with trump and his supporters. I remember the protests were getting really hardcore in Hong Kong before the virus broke out.
     
  16. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,031
    Likes Received:
    23,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe he didn't use the term bioweapon specifically, but I think this quote is pretty clear:

    We went through the worst attack we’ve ever had on our country; this is the worst attack we’ve ever had,” he said in May 2020. “This is worse than Pearl Harbor; this is worse than the World Trade Center. There’s never been an attack like this.

    So the worst attack on out country EVER, but no retaliation? OK?

    As I said before, I don't want war with China, it is just a thought experiment that shows the logical inconsistency of the Trump bluster about the engineered virus theory.
     
    Rampart likes this.
  17. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Messages:
    13,003
    Likes Received:
    3,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nonsense. I am familiar with that article from the Atlantic. That is NOT what he was saying. He was calling Covid an attack in the abstract, not necessarily as a bioweapons attack. Trust me, if Trump was pushing the notion that this was a bioweapons attack, you would most certainly KNOW it. You most certainly would not have to hunt and peck for some obscure quote that kind of sort of could be interpreted to mean as much. Love him or hate him, Trump has never been shy about spouting his opinion, and if he were claiming this to be a bioweapons attack, the entire world would know it, probably via a hundred or so tweets in addition to being mentioned at every rally he held. Nothing of the sort occurred, which is why you are left with this vague implication from an obscure article in the Atlantic.

    This thread is NOT a thought experiment. You are misrepresenting it. He is not saying "what if" and then asking us to contemplate how Trump would respond. He is saying "if" as to imply that such is Trumps position, and then he is asking why a tough guy like Trump did not do retaliate "if" that is truly what he thought. He goes on to imply that his lack of retaliation means that he never really thought it was a bioweapons attack, which makes sense because Trump never claimed it to be, but that is most certainly NOT what the OP was trying to say. He is clearly implying that Trump claimed it to be a bioweapon attack, and that furthermore he was lying about that claim since he did not retaliate.

    Calling this a "thought experiment" is giving him far too much credit. This is just another Trump hater that does not understand Trumps position on the topic, but he is arguing against his own mistaken interpretation of Trumps position.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  18. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    11,021
    Likes Received:
    5,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump passed on many justifiable opportunities to wield military might. He was not very prone to military responses.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  19. Darth Gravus

    Darth Gravus Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    10,715
    Likes Received:
    8,017
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    WOW, lighten up Francis...it was a joke...you know humor, maybe you have heard of it.

    You people take all this far to serious if a simple joke brings out this sort of personal attacks.

    Now this if funny, some how the Right/GOP has not done any business with China, never buy anything from China, never outsource their manufacturing to China...it all just the DNC...now your ravings above make more sense
     
  20. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,773
    Likes Received:
    14,565
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Perhaps it will give you a chuckle. Some on the right are calling the administration as fraught with Stockholm syndrome. One thing about politics is that there are always at least two truths.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  21. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    We have the word of a prominent Chinese virologist that China did this on purpose.
    The fact is, Trump took a hell of a lot of blame by the Media. This led to posters parroting the Media. But now Biden is in charge, has vaccines, produced no new vaccines yet the Media is silent on blame.
    If it was fair to blame Trump, it is doubly fair to blame Biden. Biden had a huge heads up what was happening.

    Our hospitals here in Idaho set records under Biden as to CV19 cases.
    What a damn shame that Biden has not fixed this problem though he has the Trump vaccines.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  22. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is one side you always defend.
    And no it is never republicans. The DNC causes you to put on your gloves and lead their fight for them.
     
  23. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Everybody calling everybody else all kinds of things. That's politics.

    There is no Biden cult. The author is a psychologist, not a talk show host. The article is an observation. Whether there is a political motive to its publishing is irrelevant to its veracity.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2021
  24. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He will always attack Republicans and defend Democrats. Even Biden is not capable of wrong doing the way he goes about things.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  25. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There never has been a Trump cult. But we who voted for Trump sure appreciate his accomplishments. We will hope Biden has even one accomplishment.
     
    19Crib and ButterBalls like this.

Share This Page