Why do gun control advocates constantly prattle about "high capacity magazines"

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  1. Turtledude

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    which of course is the main goal of the anti rights coalition And when crime goes up, the ARC will demand more restrictions.
     
  2. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    your posts demonstrate you haven't a clue of what you are talking about concerning the use of firearms in self defense. And many of you gun banners are motivated by empathy for violent criminals.
     
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    I just finished rereading the weapons of the weak by James Scott where he argues we need to think about how the weak resist the system they see as exploiting them. So probably not no.
     
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    what does that have to do with my post?
     
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    Ha.

    I don’t think you know the book. Scott talks a lot about why people commit crimes and resistance.
     
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    couldn't care less. I know why people commit crimes
     
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    “It’s because they’re evil bad people! And they need a shotgun shell to the face! Grrrr!!!!”-you probably when I ask why you think you understand people commit crimes.
     
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    What you are doing is called "projection".

    "Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another."
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection

    You can no more read minds than Miss Cleo could.
     
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    Yeah probably. I am reorienting my mindset about criminality based on new info I am looking at and it's shaking my beliefs to their core. So I have to reorient myself and natually I will project my feelings at times. Thank you for letting me know so I can further readjust my ideas.
     
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    you haven't a clue what you are talking about concerning what I know
     
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    See I’ve been told that my entire life by people who have lost arguments lots of times before. I don’t care too much for that line of reasoning in a debate. It shuts down conversation and makes it impossible to move forward. If you want to talk about it though? I’m all ears.
     
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    we have a right to keep and bear arms. We will not give it up. Pure and simple. and those who want to ban or restrict guns, are invariably either ignorant or dishonest,. or both
     
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    You are not winning any arguments in this thread.
     
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    That is precisely why we have the 2nd A!!
     
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    Why do gun control advocates constantly prattle about "high capacity magazines"

    Because they are misguided, foolish and ignorant on the problem of human violence.

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    The reason for the crime doesn't mitigate the damage caused to the victim. A murder victim is no less dead. If we are going to address the reasons and work to reduce violence, all focus would be on those likely to commit these crimes. Instead, we impose laws on those who are not committing acts of violence.
     
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    But what if we can isolate why people commit crimes and get them to change their behavior? We already do with other things, including crimes. Why not keep the trend going?
     
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    Violence starts in the brain. We change their behavior with pharm products that list "Suicidal thoughts or actions" as side effects. Show me someone who does not value their own life and I will show you someone who does not value anyone's life.

    Gun laws only provide killers with easy victims.
     
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    And why does the brain percieve things the way it does? The answer is through societal values and upbringings. A person needs to know a house has valuables in it to rob it. Simple as that.
     
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    If it were that simple, there would be no need for laws.
     
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    There is no legitimate reason to have high capacity magazines available for hunting or self defense, unless you are preparing for the zombie apocalypse.
    It is the choice of mass shooters. The novice gunner in Indy managed to get off probably 100 rounds in 4 minutes killing and wounding 12 not counting himself.
    They are an unnecessary public health hazard.
     
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    The fact your perception of need does not in any way support a sound argument for a restriction of my rights aside...
    One of me, three of them - thus, the need.
     
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    How would you describe a high capacity magazine?

    If I told you that I was preparing for a zombie apocalypse, would you stop advocating for the confiscation of AR's and/or magazines? I seriously doubt it. Just in case though, I'll try it.

    I am preparing for a zombie apocalypse. What zombie apocalypse you ask? The same one the CDC has prepared for.

    https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm

    And 100 rds in 4 minutes implies a rate of fire that is similar to that of a semi auto. You might be able to achieve that rate of fire with a revolver.

    Not sure how banning anything will prevent a similar occurrence in the future.
     
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    There is no utilitarian need to have magazines over 10 rounds and magazines over that need to be put under the National Firearms Act.

    With mass shootings, the shooter is vulnerable while reloading. Hussain Bolt can cover 40ft./sec, I might do half that with the right motivation.

    How do you think an inexperienced 19 year old would do with a revolver in 4 minutes?
     
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    Sure there is: I get quite a bit of use out of mine, whether at the range, hunting hogs, or in a self defense situation. I derive from them great utility.

    Since moon clips are a thing? Probably quite a bit better than you're expecting.

    Not only that but if you're saying they're most useful for warlike purposes, then they are most useful for militia service and the 2nd amendment protects their ownership and prohibits their being on the NFA see US v Miller. Thanks for playing.
     
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