Why do men like to kill men? At times of war, many men smile in the anticipation of killing another

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Learning how to make a biosphere from scratch will not happen unless we learn how manipulate the contents of our own.

    Mars and a life boat for man is hundreds of years away. Our world, if the U,N. is correct, does not have that king of time.
    The **** will hit the fan in less than 10 years.

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    You mage my case by comparing spelling errors to content, stupid.

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    We are 95% herbivore, with their intestines and teeth.
    Our closest primate cousins only eat about 5% neat.
    Be obtuse all you like but you cannot deny science and nature.

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    We evolved in tribes. Killing the other tribe meant survival of the individual in the other tribe.

    We still have the same genetics that evolved to survive. And had them for so long as to become human nature.
     
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    Because, regardless of what our foul leaders do to our thinking and push us to do, our instincts are pushing us to be good to each other.

    In fact, we are so good to each other that science is having a hard time dithering out why we are so nice to each other.

    That is why poverty is almost beat and other social systems are popping out all over the place.

    The U.S. today being the odd place where the reverse seems to be happening.

    The death stats are improving almost everywhere but the U.S. even though I think this year looked better.

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    You are correct for the losers. Not for the winners. Be it two men or two million, I do not think it maters in terms of winners or losers. The winners will win.

    There are benefits for the tribe or group that wins a war as I pointed out just now.
    I do not think the principles change when you scale up or down.

    I don't think so.
    It is likely more of a hero wish as the hero gets the girl.

    Reproduction is our stronger instinct otherwise, when there are no ward, we would collectively do a lot more suicide if the death wish was as strong of a motivator as you think.

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    I hear you. Just look at how many adore a genocidal god. Power overrides the believers moral sense.

    I do not agree fully with the rest of your post, but do not disagree enough to try to tear such an eloquent and well put post apart.

    You would likely bury me. Kudos.

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    I like the sentiment. It shows you venerate life.

    But please remember that a country that wants it's citizens to venerate life, cannot go around taking it when it wants.

    Killing our societal mistakes is like sweeping dirt under a carpet.

    Better to recycle our garbage if we can, or get some use out of it, and keep venerating life.

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    If you mean killing another man, I agree, in terms of the issues here.

    I think the notion would be disagreed with by nature.

    To our instincts, that tend to default to cooperation instead or competition and war, making a friend of your enemy is the more manly thing to do, as that is how you gain a lot more power without the risk of getting killed.

    That make you the fittest instead of dead and that is the inadvertent goal of our evolution.

    We have been going against nature for 5,000 years thanks to our love of genocidal war gods like Yahweh.

    We love to kill, but must refrain.

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    If that was thought kosher, the world would not have made up so many rules of warfare and would not have international courts to enforce them.

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    The lesson of Vietnam was that politicians lie to us, and look at the liar the U.S. has as it's leader today.

    American's can't seem to learn from their mistakes.

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    For brevity, please see post 84.

    We may be going counter to our nature.

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    Here, in the US, we have solved poverty every forty years. If at anytime, in US history, the standard for poverty was what it was forty years prior, poverty would be solved. "Poverty" is the most moved goal post in US history.

    Let me be clear.
    Your degree of poverty is no measure of what I'm responsible for, and my degree of wealth is no measure of what you're entitled to.
     
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    Science in fact disagrees, copralites have established that the Neanderthal diet was 80% meat. Newer studies if chimpanzees, in fact, hunt nearly as often as not and their chief food source is other monkeys. Our digestive system is far simpler than that of most herbivores.
     
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    Poverty is something that governments impose through the tax system.

    It is immoral for them to do so especially when they are taking from poorer to give to the richer who do nothing to end the poverty the rich who control the governments have imposed.

    Thanks for showing how little you care about your fellow man.

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    There is no doubt that we humans have eaten neat forever but we are not designed to do so. I have given the science that shows this. If you doubt it, try to chew through any animal skin to see just how hard it is to eat through it as well as the raw meat.

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    Then why do we have an appendix which no herbivore has? Your 'science' sir is garbage.
     
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    REALLY? Poverty comes from taxation? WOW!
     
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    Ridiculous OP based on a... video about a NOVEL? and a childish, sensationalist one at that.

    OP's threads never fail to disappoint, this one is no exception. As a matter of necessity, the current iteration of human life requires killing for perpetuation. Something must die so that man may live, the end. We didn't do that, didn't set that deal up, and for the time being, it's not changing. Trying to conflate this plain fact of human reality with some innate bloodlust that doesn't exist is puerile.

    Tool-using towards innovation and socialization are the keystones of human development, not violence and bloodshed. The latter simply get more press than the uninteresting tilling of the fields and peaceful coexistence in the interim. No, people who play a game of chess are not sublimating some killing urge.
     
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    Depends for who... I'm of european descent, non jewish, blond with blue eyes, I would have fit right in if Germany had won the war.

    In any case you tried to backtrack on your flicking the switch on child killers. Your own soldiers have delibaretly killed childrens, yet you make an exception for them.
     
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    There are cases of rapes in all wars from all sides, no exceptions. Conquest is the greatest source of metissage.
     
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    Collateral damage. The U.S. Military doesn’t target children. But in destroying a target to end a war, they may be involved. There were many at Hiroshima. And (rarely) some are killed when Israel responds to rocket attacks coming from Islamic schools and hospitals.

    it sounds like you would have been ok with a German win in WW II. That’s disturbing.
     
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    Males are wired as warriors, 'pack defenders'.

    Work with it. It has enormous value.
     
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    As a policy they don't but on the ground soldiers do. U.S. Soldiers aren't any different. They raped, even their own sometime, they murder, steal, abuse... Their humans.

    As for germany, I'm indifferent. It was before my time. I'm just saying that I wasn't their main target.
     
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    For whatever reason, the human species seems hardwired at the genetic level to kill itself off, in whatever numbers possible, in whatever manner possible. It is the only species that demonstrates such a willingness to end its own existence. For all of the supposed intelligence it possesses, killing itself seems to be the only thing the species understands. Every technological development it has ultimately put forth, has in some way or another been directly relating to the more efficient killing of one another. It is obsessed with finding differences, reasons, and just plain excuses to justify killing specific members of itself. If matters of religion and race were not available for being used as the basis of genocide, it would be matters of height and eye color.
     
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