Why do people refer to Democrats as liberals when they're far from liberal?

Genius move by whoever started it. Great way to capture interest from low IQ voters.

But the fact is, theres nothing liberal about big government.

 

It's based on a few Liberal issues that they push.

Open borders to allow a flood of Democrat voters and taking away our guns are probably the most glaring.

 

Which are stupid generalizations. Most Democrats don't wan't "open borders", they just don't think a wall is a serious long term solution and
given that when Democrats had the House, the Senate and the White House that they passed ZERO legislation to take your guns, I'd say that was ********* hyperbole also.

 

"Liberal" and "Conservative" have been compressed into meaningless talking points. Ideologues from both sides constantly attempt to paint each other with some extraterrestrial knowledge of what the other side (all of it) believes. It's amusing to watch 'conservatives' attempt to paint the Democrats as the party of open borders, deficit spending, a weak military, socialism, and gun confiscation. None of that is true, of course, but it sure sounds scary.

 

The parrots (a small percentage of Republicans) basically have not the cognitive powers to deduce anything beyond the TV images blaring at them. The fact that they are looking at the actions of .0000001% of the people who voted for Hillary can't penetrate the brain for useful processing. Then they run to their favorite blog and post it as fact.

 

Trump's government is the same size as was Obama's.

Trump has not closed one federal agency nor has Trump ended one Liberal social program.

Republicans have never had a smaller government in the modern era.
"Smaller government" and "conservative" are just meaningless terms.

 

Its more Fed vs State governments.

I absolutely want state governments to have more power. The federal government should hardly be involved in our day to day lives.

 

Well believe it or not, there was a time when the word "Democrat" did imply at least some degree of being a John Locke Liberal. Unfortunately, the Democrat party gradually drifted farther leftward of that definition into the realm of Marxist Socialism ideology. It was an easy transition for some, because of Adam Smith, Father of Capitalism, who wrote the book "Wealth of Nations" included a footnote giving Karl Marx credit for the idea of "progressive taxation", ie: redistribution.

 

No, you're wrong.

Democrats want to "build bridges" instead of walls. (Quote from Hillary.)

And Democrats have been aggressively trying to ban guns for forty years.......they have never stopped that effort, but have always failed.

Now that they have gained some power.......watch them gleefully go after our guns. It's happening already.

 

Bull crap. Pathetic hyperbole that doesn't match real world experience.

 

LOL!

What I posted is real world experience.

Hillary quote.

Legislation already being drafted.

 

Bull crap hyperbole. "building bridges" isn't "open borders". It's general relations with foreign countries. Your spin is old crap and hyperbolic.
Legislation has been drafted for gun paraphernalia (bump stocks and magazines) hardly end of the world stuff. Get real.

 

Whatever your individual beliefs are, the left continue sto support candidates that implement policies toward these directions.

Liberals are unique in congress. Congress is pretty much ran by progressive authoritarians and republican authoritians.

 

IMO democrats have always been Marxist they just had to take it slow because if they let Americans know their plans all at once there would have been tried for the treason they were planning.
it was started when Roosevelt created welfare and started giving away other peoples labor wages to those who only produced offspring and little else.
Roosevelt did charge the working man for forced SSI payments and even that was freely given to those who never paid a dime into it. Many made welfare a family tradition.
Workers paid premiums and non workers got that free too. So from cradle to grave democrat voters have come out like a bandit on the backs of American workers.
Now they have foreigners coming in getting it too.
The SCAM of slow learners is a huge racket HDAD and other normal child hood tendences is paying illegals and others billions for their kids diagnosed with this BS.
Hate to to tell them that everybody isn't born a rocket scientist .

 

Wrong again. Your opinions. Here are facts.

One State example. Election gains result in pending gun control in many states.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/11/08/minnesota-renewed-gun-control-debate-shootings-tim-walz/

Gains in Congress mean.........gleeful Democrats savoring their new power to take our guns.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/1...ats-have-their-sights-set-on-gun-control.html

Building bridges instead of walls?

Bridge:



Wall:



Get it now?

 

Back in the days (60s-70s) when the nonleft was just starting to get creamed by thinking it was in an ideological disagreement with rational statist-collectivist adults who deserved polite treatment, and had not yet realized it was in a hyperemotional sandbox fight and propaganda war with shrieking, irrational zombie children of all ages, "liberal" was a polite way of referring to all the fringe branches of the left-Complex at the time, communists, socialists, radicals, hippies, atheists, "queers," etc. without being particularly insulting. It was a gross misuse of language, and the nonleft did it to themselves in attaching that laughably inaccurate label to the Left.

For the whole 20th century, self-interested statist-collectivists of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer MSM Complex resisted any labeling of themselves whatsoever successfully with their vast media and edu hegemonies, while gleefully labeling everyone else with abandon ("far right, religious right" back then). In fact, their statist-collectivism was positioned as just "normal American," and anyone disagreeing with it, "Far Right."

This continues , and has amplified to date, as the Left-Complex doesn't even bother to hide its more irrational, fantastical labels, hollering "racist-Nazi-fascist-misogynist-authoritarian-alt right- white nationalist-xenophobe-etc." daily in its mainstream while feebly resisting labeling of itself. You can see that often here with posters making long label-heavy posts, then pitching a hissy about even the mild "Left" label against themselves. Do they realize the hypocrisy? Doubtful, all part of the mental defect of identity politics.

"Liberal" is dropping out of favor outside the nonleft old school like Rush Limbaugh and a few others, who still use the term, and is being replaced by "Leftist" more and more. IMO, there are relatively few labels that are reasonably accurate, "collectivists" v "individualists," "private sector v public" for example, that haven't caught on and likely won't despite being far more accurate. We are probably going to be stuck for the foreseeable future with "Left v Right" as vague and imprecise as it is.

As a thought experiment, think of all the times you see the term "Far Right" used as an insult in MSM today, then try to think if you've ever even seen the term "Far Left." Telling.

 

To be historically correct it's radical leftist (Commies, Marxist, Maoist, internationalist socialist, anarchist) who hide behind the liberal label and call themselves liberals.

When they dirted the liberal label during the 1980's many radicals would hide behind the progressive label.

 

Further moronic hyperbole on your part. That bridge is no where near the US border. It's in dumb-assed China (try reading the signs). People from other countries MAY be able to apply for refugee status. Thousands were denied such status under Obama's watch.

Blogs are not news sources.

Get it now?

Or will you have to wait till Hannity tells you what to say?

 

The pictures were examples, so don't expect them to be on the border.

But I think you knew that........you just have no valid rebuttal so you had to use that.

I can lead you to water, but I can't make you drink.

Bye.

 

they were lying examples. Do your work correctly the first time, find applicable examples involving an American border and an American bridge, then build an compelling argument showing their relevance to the topic, and you won't be embarrassed to be throwing out Chinese pictures of a Chinese bridge as evidence of anything. You lead us to salt water, and thought we'd be stupid enough to drink. Second mistake.

 

Let me know when you guys figure out that labels like liberal and conservative mean entirely different things depending on culture, and historical and political context.

 

There's little difference between either of the neo-liberal war parties in terms of foreign policy. The only thing either of them really care about is keeping the American military industrial complex well oiled.

On social policies is really the only space left where democrats and republicans are anything like liberals and conservatives.

 

Liberals tend to be VERY conservative, yes.

 

Correct. Better terms:

Liberals: big government, authoritarian, "one world" collectivists

Conservatives: small government, freedom-loving, patriotic individualists

 

Must be the same logic used in describing Republicans as CONSERVATIVE???Have you looked at how the National Debt has grown under Dirty Donald in a supposedly booming economy???