Why do so called Experts on South Africa, ignore the People's War?

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As most of you are aware I am very concerned about the state of things in Africa and specifically South Africa. I have had the privilege to listen to many well informed people "from the continent" and "not from the continent" speak on these problems.

    Something that concerns me about the experts "not from the continent" is that they completely ignore the ANC & EFF's violence and intimidation tactics when looking for solutions for South Africa. I have recently listened to an American expert talk on the "way forward" for South Africa where he suggested South Africans must work to build a centrist vote.

    The most important issue I have with this suggestion is not that it is wrong, because it is correct, the problem I have with this suggestion is that it ignores the "People's War" the violent necklacing & killing of opponents by the ANC & its factions.

    A Democracy can only work when people are free to vote for whomever they want to without the threat of death or torture. South Africa is no Democracy because the People's War is exactly how the ANC gain and keep its support yet EVERYONE ignores this and keep pretending it's a lovely little Democracy.

    So going to try and fit this in with other stuff I'm doing, this thread will be about the ANC's People's War and;
    how it is preventing South Africa in becoming a Democracy,
    how it deliberately prevents South Africa from moving past Apartheid to enable the ANC to achieve their Marxist revolution - the NDR (National Democratic Revolution).

    Communism never ended, the People's War never stopped.

    I'll start with Anthea Jeffery,

    The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission appointed by the ANC found the Apartheid Security forces were responsible for approximately 3% of the 20,500 deaths during 40 years of Apartheid. The ANC killed their own people to force them in joining the movement. Today this threat is used to keep voters from moving to the centre, aligning with whites or white ideas.

     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unathi Kwaza outspoken have received death threats, the relevant piece is shortly after 14:50 mins where she breaks down in fear of her life, talking about necklacing.
    Personally I fear for her life too.

    ANC and Mainstream Media are South Africa's problems, not whites - Unathi Kwaza

     
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    Ok so why does it matter.

    The so called experts tells us the solution to South Africa's problems is a centrists black vote, they are correct. A centre-left party did surface in 2009, COPE (Congress of the People) a party that today could have been the solution to South Africa's ANC problem. But intimidation and lack of funding destroyed it. It is also interesting to note that while the British (according to Ramaphosa) thought it prudent to fund the radical left EFF, (the very people who are responsible for the violence and intimidation & white farmer killings), the party that could have been the solution COPE fell away because of lack of funding and intimidation by the British funded EFF & ANC. Effectively British funding of the EFF helped sabotage South Africa's Democracy.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/10.18772/12011115423.12.pdf?acceptTC=true&coverpage=false

    The below is from a 2014 document titled (I posted a fraction of the intimidation tactics listed within this document)

    Just singing and dancing? Intimidation and the manipulation of voters and the electoral process in the build-up to the 2014 elections

    https://www.nelsonmandela.org/uploads/files/intimidation-in-elections.pdf


     
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    Don't tell me "all you need is to build a black centrist vote' don't tell me "but black people keep voting for the ANC they deserve to starve" with this level of violence, intimidation and killings going on. A People's War that continues to this day.

    Intimidating journalists: The death of Suna Venter
    What the death of one South African journalist may reveal about the intimidation facing sections of the media.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...g-south-africa-reporters-170802080322360.html

     
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    Why? Because the leadership in the west no longer truly believes in the ideals that made it the dominant culture in the world. So they'll support what ever bloody minded third world twit that has brains enough to give lip service to whatever socialist nonsense is en vogue in the halls of power in Europe. With tribal/religious wars and grinding poverty as is the last thing Africa needs us to add socialist buffalo chips to an already highly inflammable mix. But Europe, in general, and England in particular, seem bound and determined to foist the disaster that brought Margaret Thatcher to power upon the poor of Africa.
     
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    I was in South Africa over the Christmas period. It changed my view of the world.

    I was there as groomsman for a good mate; a good person.

    I met a lot of locals, overwhelmingly good people. I got out of the car at night parked on the side of the street, and got startled by a crackhead speaking Afrikaans asking for money. We had a chat to him and turns out he just got out of one of the world prisons in the world - even he was a very polite man, I was stunned.

    Over there you earn 10 times less, but most things cost about 10 times less, notable exceptions being fuel and travel.

    It's a hard problem, because the nation is on a collision course. Segregation is immoral, but the current democratic order is utterly ineffective.

    The ANC are corrupt. The EFF is evil and genocidal. The DA are mostly reasonable.
     
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    Obama's biggest failure as bad as it was, was not Obamagate, as a black President it was looking the other way when the ANC wiped out COPE with intimidation, violence and fear. This happened on his watch, when South Africa's blacks lost their Democracy they lost their prosperous future for a future of starvation, mass migration & death. (btw since I'm pointing out the obvious today the mass migration is why it concerns many of you)

    I'm down to drawing pictures, South Africa will never have a centred black vote as long as the ANC & EFF wage their People's War. They are using violence, intimidation and fear to wipe out the black centre, drive them to the left for a Marxist Revolution that will target the white Capitalists & Christians.

    Political spectrum.001.png
     
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    Some of us view that as an Obama 'success.' Those of us who believe he was a collectivist authoritarian sympathizer, anyway.
     
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    Yes, clearly he was either a
    or lacked courage to confront the African National Congress, or perhaps he really didn't understand the terrible consequences for millions of black Africans & potentially Europe to just let it slide
     
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    The People's war vary in intensity as required and consists not exclusively but in the main of three elements;
    1. Violence & death (but not simply death, rather horrifying death for the purpose of sensationalism)
    2. Innocent civilians
    3. The Media
    The People's war today still playing out in South Africa long after Apartheid have gone, originated in Vietnam where the Communists won the propaganda war and discovered the Achilles heel of the West. The Media and its addiction & partiality to relevancy, sensationalism at the expense of truth.

    The Media drove America out of Vietnam, then completely ignored the slaughter that followed the withdrawal.

     
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    Back to South Africa,

    Did South Africa ever really have a Democracy to begin with if the violence never stopped? The answer is no, it was all a farce.

    Therefore should we be surprised at ANC intimidation, killing and violence that continue to this day?

    The BIGGER Question is why are there still some "experts" waiting for the South African Democracy to come along?
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    The Media won the war against Apartheid for the African National Congress, then completely ignored the slaughter that followed

     
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    To this very day, the Media still lie and practice Selective Negativity.

    Today in Minneapolis
    The Western Media is waging a People's war against Conservative governments.

     
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    White guilt, and black self-rule, has doomed South Africa to a bloody regression into barbarity that's essentially unstoppable.

    White flight is the only sane option. Just get out before SA goes full Zimbabwe.
     
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    Creasy.... Creasy! Wake up, look around you... the People's war have arrived in the USA. ;)

    Now pay attention because you've met before... America met the People's War in Vietnam.
     
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    One of the main goals of the People's War is to make the country ungovernable.

     
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    Most people in America and Europe have no idea what's happening in South Africa, there is very little coverage of it in the media. Which is interesting because in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, that's all the media ever talked about.

    These days the country seems to be ignored along with the rest of Africa.

    Even though if you go back to the 70s and 80s, you can see the country being discussed as if it were among the First World countries like Canada and Australia.
     
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    The reason for this media blackout is two fold;

    a) because George Soros owner of the Guardian & various other media outlets, (who were intimately involved with the Soviet Union & the African National Congress and their People's War) have thanks to the Clintons & Obama steered America & Europe in the same direction as South Africa. Porous Borders, high inequality, corruption, bashing of whites and violent riots, It would be very bad for his cause if people actually saw South Africa today, and discovered how bad the outcome of his policies, activism and funding (including Antifa) truely is.

    b) is the fear Western leaders have of a race war. They fear if people discovered how bad the torture and death of whites in South Africa is it will ignite a race war. I also believe this is why South Africa was "sacrificed" by the west in late 80's early 90's, they hoped a transition to a black government would avoid racial conflict in their own countries, likely this decision just made things a lot worse, turns out black governments are 100 times more racist than white governments and thanks to their determination to continue the deception & lies nobody realises it :lol: ..(sorry for laughing I take my revenge where I find it... it's coming thick and fast now :lol:)

    Most people shrug and have no clue when you talk about South Africa, I find this a tad humorous and most ironic as their future on the current trajectory is bound to be similar.
     
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    I distinctly recall a Russian lady on this site posting in the Australian forum (when there were talk about brining 10,000 white farmers over to Australia on humanitarian grounds) that the white South African farmers should be brought over and dumped somewhere in rural Australia because that's the perfect place for racists.

    Incredible, that someone part of a propaganda machine and from the country where the marxist propaganda against white South Africans was crafted swallowed that very same propaganda hook line and sinker.

    This Communist propaganda, thanks to the media, is still widely accepted by people all around the world. White South African = Racist.

    if you looked at my map in post #8 you'll see a very different representation of white South Africa, and truth is they are in reality NO DIFFERENT TO OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES, but communist propaganda eaten up like candy by the western media have made everyone believe differently.

    here is the true representation
    Political spectrum.001.jpeg

    and here is the Marxist representation
    Political spectrum2.001.jpeg

    Why is this relevant, because they are doing exactly the same to white America... and particularly to Trump supporters.

    To this very day, if a white South African complain about 500,000 people murdered in 25 years, or hundreds of thousands of tonnes of sewage in the rivers systems every day, or hospitals that kills.... they are simply being racist.... ban them... or stick the somewhere in a corner so no one can hear.
     
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    Before Mandela was released from jail, he was crafted into something more palatable to the West, someone they can worship.

    Important ideological changes were made to the first draft of his autobiography to remove any and all statements that reflect the Marxist... you'll probably find the true Obama is not who you think he is.

    http://www.radiofreesouthafrica.com/lost-prison-manuscript-reveals-real-nelson-mandela-2/
     
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    The People's war is changed to suit each country, I heard a journalist say, "America is so divided because of its long history of racial abuse" this is incorrect, how quickly they forget that America voted for a black president less than a decade ago. This would not have been possible without a large centrist white vote.

    America is so divided because that is the goal/outcome of the Marxists and their People's War... to chop out the centre and polarise.

    They smear the right and centre right, they smear the opposition and tell you, you are complicit if you are silent... you must pick a side and it has to be theirs or you are a bad, evil, immoral person.

    They dominate the headlines with their violence and an indulgent media terrified of being called racist spend a good 2-3 minutes reciting the evils of racism (as if people don't know :rolleyes: ) and how horrified they personally are before addressing a Trump aligned politician or guest, as if to put a barrier between them and the guest. The Twenty-to-Two rule in action


    Political spectrum.001.jpeg


    too much with the pictures? ok sorry I promise no more :lol: if you don't get the picture by now you never will.
     
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    May as well run naked around in this thread.. there's no one here to care about Black lives

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    You people need to look for the things no one knows about, the relevant and important things the media NEVER talks about.. the things the Globalists are hiding... like the Comintern. And the People's War, clearly buried because they are highly relevant.

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    https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...illions-to-lose-in-china-from-rising-tensions
    This is the reason for the sudden global mobilisation of Black lives matter, a US election that will determine if this mob ^^^^ and some not mentioned above lose billions or not. BLM cause owned by big bankers and they simply don't care... end justifies the means.. too much hate.

    Incredible the financiers thought they could force a West to East pivot, usually determined by natural forces of free markets and sound economics. They were more than happy to sell humanity into Communist bondage for greed.
    Certainly China does NOT have sound economics, a free market or free anything for that matter.
     
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