Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

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  1. expatriate

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    and, somehow, they want to make us all believe that it has NOTHING to do with their irrational hatred for negroes.
     
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    Seriously. Say his name was Peter Nowitzki, and his mother had lived in New York City and his father had been a polish graduate student from Gdansk who was studying at Columbia... and then, after Peter's birth in a NYC hospital, his parents had gotten a divorce and his dad had moved back to Poland. Then, Peter's mom had married a guy from Ireland and gone to live there with young Peter for a few years, and then returned to New York, where he grew up and one day ran for president as a republican, can anyone with any integrity whatsoever say that we would be having a discussion about whether Peter was a natural born citizen?
     
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    I can say with absolute certainty that I am paid exactly as much as you are by your RNC overlords for your posts.
     
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    Well integrity isn't a word Birthers are familiar with.

    Birther's who make the 'two citizen parents' claim originally also claimed that was the way of every previous President.

    Then it was pointed out that Chester Arthur's father was also not a citizen when he was born- and Birthers made up a whole story about Chester Arthur too.

    Voters didn't care that Chester Arthur's father wasn't a citizen, voters didn't care that Obama's father wasn't a citizen- because we all know it is irrelevant when it comes to children born in the United States.
     
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    I see. Well take a copy of your birth certificate, and have it scanned. Then tell me how many tries it takes to get it to separate it into 9 layers with the dates, signatures and stamps on separate layers. The investigators tried 1,200 times and could not duplicate that outcome.
     
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    I really don't care where Obama was born, he was elected under the current election laws and it really makes little difference, since his Mother WAS a citizen. What will be written about IMO, will be a much different and complicated process, based on the Kennedy/Kenyan education pact. I'll cut my theory there, but Flight's to and from "the area" for years and for these student's or family, may have been involved.

    I would suggest "Birther's" are the opposite of narrow minded, most being Strict Constitutional advocates, but yes a few like me just don't care for his policies, whether they really his or maybe Jarritt, his Wife's or a combination of the three.
     
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    Well that is because the 'investigators' are idiots who started off convinced that there must be a forgery- and then proceeded to prove to themselves that it was.

    How much money has Mike Zullo accepted so far between his Birther book deal and his $10,000 'donation' from a Birther?

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    Birthers started off with being opposed to the election of Barack Obama- and then went in search of rationalizations on why he must not be eligible.
     
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    Oh really? How many tries did you accomplish this feat in?
     
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    I'd agree the issue gained momentum after the 2008 Election, as he soon began implementing his policies and the methods used, but the issue was certainly around and discussed by members of both parties DURING the 2008 election process....
     
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    The issue was a fringe issue mostly discussed on fringe right wing blogs, and a few Hilary supporters. Since 2008, Birthers have been almost exclusively right wing nutjobs, who even the Republican Party is ashamed to be associated with, though a few have pandered to Birthers just to scrape up a few more bucks.

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    I have always been able to accomplish rational thought which is why I reject the Birther idiocy.
     
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    Take a copy of your birth certificate and turn it into a PFD. How many layers are there? Are the signatures, dates and stamps on separate layers?

    I question your ability for rational thought because you dismiss outright without a critical look at the evidence. A rational person will determine that the birth certificate is a fraud once you look at the birth certificate posted on the White House website. Take a critical look and prove to me that the birth certificate is not a fraud. Conduct an experiment on your own birth certificate and see if you can get the same results as the birth certificate posted by the White House. You have no right to call anyone an idiot if you haven't looked at the evidence yourself before making a decision.
     
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    His birth certificate was authenticated by the state of Hawaii.
     
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    Prove it.

    Then, take a copy of your birth certificate and turn it into a PFD. How many layers are there? Are the signatures, dates and stamps on separate layers?

    If not, you have just proven that the fraudulent birth certificate posted by the White House is a fraud.
     
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    Why would I care- the BC in my hand is the legal proof of my place of birth- a scanned copy that I sent to show my Aunt Bessie has not legal value at all-- I wouldn't know or care how many layers it has, and if my Aunt Bessie told me that it must be a fake because it has layers, I would realize it was time for Aunt Bessie to have her mental status checked out.

    And if the State I was born in also published multiple statements on line confirming that not only were my birth certificates authentic and valid, but that I was certainly born in that state- well again- why would I be caring about any layers on my scanned copy?

    And if a reporter- like Savannah Guthrie- had take a photo of my legal birth certificate- and published that photo- and it matched the BC that I scanned.....well again- why would i care about layers?
     
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    We cannot help that you have the reading comprehension of a 6 year old .

    It has been proven.

    Beyond that- we don't have to prove anything- the President will finish his term ignoring the Birthers.

    His place of birth has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt- but Birthers are not reasonable and they will follow in the footsteps of the Truthers and Moon Landing deniers and other such folk into the anals of history.
     
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    I know you don't care. That is the point. You are such a sycophantic leftist fanatical worshipper of Obama that if he told you to drink the Kool-Aid, you'd drink the Kool-Aid.
     
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    It's not that you don't have anything to prove, it's that you can't prove it and you know you can't prove it so you don't even try to prove it.

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    No, they did not authenticate it. That is a lie.

    That is why you can't prove it.
     
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    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
    Hawaii authenticated it. It's in plain English black and white.
     
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    Proven- and authenticated.

    That you can't accept it is not my problem.

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    Just like American voters, the Electoral College, Congress and Chief Justice Roberts.

    I am fine with the company I am keeping.
     
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    To this day, Barry Obama has never presented to any controlling legal authority any certified document of his birth date, place or parentage as would be required for anyone else obtaining a simple passport or other federal registration of career.

    What has been presented is a computer image that has been Photoshopped and presented which is a forgery of an Hawaiian birth certificate. He is also not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of Commander-in-Chief as a foreign citizen.
     
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    what did he present when he got his passport in 1967?
     
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    “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai'i.”
     
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    LOLOL.. of what country is Obama a citizen?

    His mother never left the US until 1967.
     
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    Under British law in place in 1961 in the British Empire including The British Protectorate of Kenya, any person born to a citizen of Great Britain became themselves a citizen of Great Britain.

    Under the laws of Indonesia, any child attending public school must be a citizen of Indonesia.
     
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