Why does god put the needs of the few above the needs of the many?

I am always interested in how Christianity ended in believing so many lies.

Thanks.

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DL

 

Why do you feel the need to start threads to belittle the religious beliefs of others? Why do you feel the need (and superiority) to call others stupid and state that they have no place on this forum?

 

My need is created by my disgust that Christians preach homophobia and misogyny and somehow thing a genocidal god is a good god.

Are you suggesting that with those vile and immoral tenets, Christians are superior?

If so, make your case in showing the good or superiority of such Christian evil.

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DL

 

I'm suggesting nothing of the kind. I don't see a superiority in any religion. But if you want to discuss the homophobia and misogyny existent in many Christian beliefs, perhaps you could find a less condescending and alienating way to do it.

 

Two things interest me about this:

1) The lack of care taken in properly translating Greek and Latin texts.

2) Augustine of Hippo's role in this.

To the first point, I find it interesting how a semi-literate, semi-barbarian, semi-Christian warlord like Charlemagne considered the accuracy of language more important than some of the so-called Church Doctors and Fathers, like Jerome and Augustine. What elevates this into the realm of irony is that Charlemagne happened to be an admirer of Augustine (oops!).

To the second, I have only read excerpts of Confessions and City of God, but I find it curious how a man who spent so much time contemplating, praising and writing about God's grace was one of the two main culprits responsible for introducing the concept of Hell/eternal damnation into Christianity. Augustine was certainly a much conflicted man...

 

and of course you dont preaching against your own religion is insanity?

So you are back to the Jews and the OT. Christains follow the NT, nice fail.

More than atheists that worship the statism which was founded on lies? Seriously?

 

The Jesus character said that if a person has just a little faith that the person can command a tree to uproot itself and to jump into the nearest body of water. Not one person has ever had enough faith to do that, including Jesus. If you can do it then you will be more powerful than Jesus was.

 

We won't know until we know

 

It is hard not to say s---- when you have a mouthful.

Especially with fools who do not see some ideologies as superior to others.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is turn the blind eye you do to it.

Apologies to your ego.

I hope you show better morals on other issues.

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DL

 

With accurate language, you cannot lie and defraud as easily.

The biggest lie is speaking in tongues.

That kind of includes all clergy who speak of a god they cannot possibly know.

Faith is a licence to be lied to.

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DL

 

What is more likely to be a lie? Statism based on people being in control of themselves, or isms based on the supernatural, where control of ones self is given over to whatever lies behind some supernatural shield?

On this issue though, have you noted just how much more peaceful and law abiding are as compared to the supernatural thinkers. I wonder why?

Any idea?

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DL

 

I preach to heel the sick.

I am all in for my religion and it's survival depends on how it changes. It need changing. To not try to heel it, you will agree, is not the loving or loyal thing to do.

By your twisted logic, one who switches wings or views, could not try to help both sides.

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DL

 

If you have yet to know, keep thinking, without drugs.

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DL

 

And to which evils are you referring? And my morals - on which issue do they seem to be lacking in your opinion? My ego is just fine, thanks - I don't rely upon others to boost or bolster it. Can you say the same?

 

We won't know til we know with or without the thinking or the drugs.

 

What would be the less alienating way of doing it? (and in particular, I'm not looking so much for info on how to not do it, but how to do it in a way that you think would resonate)

 

The best way I know is to approach the conversation with respect for the other individual.

 

Statism hands down!
supernatural doesnt perpetuate a holohoax to politically corrupt society to force them to their money grubbing agenda.
I cant believe you would even attempt such an argument lol

Ive noted no such thing

no, thats a contradiction in terms, often the result of cognitive dissonance, a mental disorder, not twisted logic.

What you mean sky pilot isnt respectful enough?

 

I said what I wanted.

The bottom line is that Christian theology, when read literally, shows an evil god.

Evil people will not see it. Evil here I describe as those who knowingly hold their noses and put their selfish tribal needs above the common morality of the community.

Evil people will preach inequality for women and gays and that is what our mainstream religions do.

They are traitors to their country.

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DL

 

That is like looking for proof of god.

I have asked the same to those who attack my ways both in these places and in P.M.

They never show the better way they preach. If any of them did, I would be plagiarizing the style.

I have also had 3 such people collaborate on a topic with me, in their approved style, and unfortunately, they all bailed out really quickly because they could not take the heat.

Perhaps our friend will show us the way.

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DL

 

More like with love that creates a hate for the fact that the poor soul can be made to believe lies by some lying clergy or politician.

The moment that you show love, tough love, which is what is required to save that soul, it all hits the fan.

The wrong headed cannot take the truth. That is why they venerate genocidal characters like Yahweh and Jesus.

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DL

 

"Statism based on people being in control of themselves" IS a lie.

Individualism, libertarianism and liberalism in the classical sense are about people being in control of themselves.

I get the impression your question didn't achieve what you intended...

 

Indeed, to a point.

Not as big of a lie as the demonstrable lie of the supernatural being real.

Mythos has a place and so does logos.

Logos must always lead. Facts must always lead over fiction.

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DL

 

"to a point"?

I'm afraid not.

There is no degree of truth, no gray area, to be debated there. You've confused two things - Statism and Individualism - that cannot be confounded.

I disagree.

The only demonstrable lie that has been presented is Statism as Individualism. The existence of the "supernatural" is a matter of speculation and debate.

On that we can agree....

I'm inclined to agree with you, but I also agree with those who argue that there are cases where Reason can only take us so far. The questions surrounding the existence and nature of "God" are an obvious example.

For example, to answer the question surrounding God's existence we have to answer the question of God's nature, and Reason cannot answer that question for us.

So where does that leave us?



Ironically, it leaves us with a brilliant Franciscan theologian and logician who concluded 700 years ago that beyond its academic and entertainment value, the discussion/debate we are having is a complete waste of time.

 

In reality and agreement with the ancient thinking that we could not know anything about any of the gods as they were all man made.

That is why the intelligent religions put man above god.

That would include Christianity if they had not become idol worshipers of a demonstrably evil god. They should have stuck to their Chrestian roots when they plagiarized that religion and Jewry.

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DL