Why doesn't college prepare you for the real world?

Valid point...

Not too familiar with those...

I started off as a biology major, then, switched to criminal justice...

 

participated in a liberal arts degree recently?

 

I think the best resume will
include a stint at McDonalds or some fastfood establishment during the highschool or college years (shows they can handle customers and a fast pace)-- making assistant manager a plus.
A full schedule of Volunteer work, internships and school activities (not anti-American ones by the way) while making at least a B average.
A diverse degree that can fit a variety of fields--business, marketing, accounting can do that.

A demonstration of a person's work ethic is important for a resume--and I think that is sometimes missing on the College resume.

If a person goes to college, makes straight A's but spends the off-time partying---its going to be harder to keep and find a job.

 

Yes.
The halls are filled with hopelessly indebted individuals who are now qualified to do the same crappy jobs their parents did right out of high school.

 

I don't see any validity to your statement whatsoever. Every degree, particularly BS's have strict accreditation requirements regarding curriculum. If anything, its more difficult to graduate with a degree now than it was 50 years ago and the programs are more comprehensive. Your argument seems to be purely speculative.

 

You cannot be serious. Your argument for why colleges today apparently dont teach analytical thinking is because every student isn't crowbarred into classes that have no bearing on thier area of study?

All those subjects are still taught. As an engineering major, I studied Differential calculus, I wouldn't expect a phychology major to do the same.

 

Why doesn't college prepare you for the real world?


Because it is a big business run by liberals with profit being their only motive.

Notice that it is also one of the few "big businesses" that liberals never concern themselves with the raising cost to the consumer so long as they continue to crank out a majority young indoctrinated communists.

What's the profit margin of Big Education compared to Big Oil, or Big Health Care? An interesting question, yes?

 

As posted earlier, a college degree seriously increases employment and earning potential.

But not all degrees are the same. Petroleum engineers are at virtually 100% employment and most real STEM degrees are solid. If you went into liberal arts, well, you weren't in it for the money in the first place right?

That said, college can't provide true experience. I strongly advise having a year of internships under your belt and some solid references before graduating.

 

Yep, all sorts of stats courses. I use stats on a daily basis. Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. A college education increases compensation at a lesser degree now than in the past because of a general watering down of those that receive diplomas.

 

Actually I recall from finding info as part of a discussion here a while ago that there was a time in the 70s where manual labor jobs like construction and manufacturing paid more than jobs with college degrees.

That is now the gold standard against which people compare current unskilled jobs like that when they complain about outsourcing or illegal immigration etc.

 

they also defer earnings to later in life while saddling you with tremendous debt. The bankers love your argument.

 

They earn on average $400 more a week than those with only a high school diploma. I know math is hard for you, but that is $20,800 more a year. Even if it takes you til 30 to reach that point... you will make on average between 30-60, $624,000 more than those who do not go to college. I would say that is a solid investment. But I'm sure you will have some weird rebuttal.

 

Please show me your study

Also, you do have to service your debt, which removes a significant portion of those earning that would be otherwise available for savings, (about $7700 per year on 100K debt over 20 years at 4%). You also absorb increased taxes over that same period, and start your own retirement savings at a much later date. Many of those jobs also require you to live in an area with a much higher cost of living, higher taxes and have higher associated working costs, ie., travel, food, clothing etc. Yeah, you're living the american dream. Hope Mommy has your room ready for you. You'll be living there a while.

 

It's from this:

He compared someone graduating with a Bachelor's degree to someone with a HS diploma. His math adds up.

As for the debt, most people who graduate with a Bachelor's don't have 100k in debt. Even at the private degree mills the average is around 50k. People with 100k in debt went to private school the stupid way or went to professional school. Average debt for Bachelor's graduates is 18k, but the data are skewed by the private degree mills.

You may start retirement savings at a later date, but the benefits from a job that requires a degree are generally better than the type of work someone sans degree would get. Considering that Social Security as we know it will be destroyed by the time people my age retire, I'll take the benefit package that comes with a job that requires a degree.

Higher cost of living compared to where? Rural areas with limited job opportunities or the ghetto?

It's blatantly obvious that not all degrees are created equal. That doesn't mean college education is a bad idea all the time. We do need more programs for trades, because some people aren't made to go to college. There will always be a need for plumbers, auto mechanics, and cosmetologists. I wish our high schools would push that as much as they do college. These are good, middle class jobs.

 

Very interesting.

 

Gotta love right wing anti intellectualism!

Some people prefer the masses to be uneducated and putting all their faith in organized religions and wacky forms of nationalism. You are so much easier to control that way! And you will gladly support those who oppress you!!

Very scary stuff.

 

Operative word = average. Liberal arts majors bring that average down as do all of the other useless degrees. Investing in a good career path leads to better returns.

 

Yet individuals with college degrees voted for Romney. Hmmm.... that's a mystery.

 

"Studies show that states that elect Democrats contribute the most in federal taxes relative to what they consume in government services.(*)Conversely, many states that elect Republicans contribute the least in taxes relative to the services they consume. This is true even though many Democratic states contain large, poor, urban populations of color."

I didn't realize that the South was particularly known for their education systems.

 

And didn't the youth vote go to Obama pretty handily?

 

The country is still "purple". Conservatives are more likely to have a college degree and make more. Though the are very under represented in the social sciences, and I worry that there may be genuine anti intellectualism on the rise vs just not agreeing with bias. But we're getting off topic.

I dunno. There is a certain demand for those jobs and I think it is met. Some of the other degrees can be related to new and exportable products.

As others are mentioning the debt often isn't so tremendous and it pays off well.

Though again with caveats. You can spend a huge amounts to learn to ask if they want existentialism with those fries. Lemmi see if I can find current info on more practical degrees. Here we are.

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/majors-that-pay-you-back

 

No one is arguing that. That's why it is an "average". And I went to a private liberal arts school and I will tell you, those real liberals do not care about money. They are real life hippies, who want to travel the world, experience other cultures, go in to teaching, art, etc, etc. That's not my kind of life, but just because a professor or an artist doesn't make $1 million a year, doesn't mean education still doesn't pay. What weighs down education is all the new online colleges that advertise getting degrees in your pajamas or all the get your education "quick" campaigns. The only people that try to say education doesn't pay are people that never went to college. Because statistics really do not favor those that do not go to college. Especially in the 21st century where jobs are becoming more specialized and demanding at least some education and training.

 

Yea, probably those that got degrees in the 60s. Obama destroyed Romney with the youth vote and it's only going to get worse. Education is the cure for conservatism.

 

Congrats, you got the youth vote (which most democrats do). The reason is the youth are too naive and are too ignorant to understand the real effects of their decisions. Then they eventually realize the foolishness of their youth votes and start voting responsibly.

 

That's a myth. There is no statistics that prove that the older someone gets the more conservative they get. There's a generational shift happening. With the Internet and education... conservatives no longer can prey on enough weak minds to win elections. They either have to start acting more normal and get rid of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News or they will never win an election again.