Why doesn't college prepare you for the real world?

It does when they are jobs, the real world is all about self reliance and even today if someone goes to college to become a physician they will certainly be ready for the real world.

but liberal arts degrees, etc... they are kidding themselves, this economy will eat them alive and they need to set their goals for restaurant server to cater to the wealthy, who will tip them a pittance for trickle down economics, and that will prepare them for the real world which is brutal and uncaring.

 

Your spelling/grammar suggests you do not have much in the way of an education. Too bad for you and your financial future. Anyway. Getting a college degree that the private sector recognizes was earned at a 'real' college is never "not worth it". What's never "worth it" is going into debt 'sort-of' completing some inane degree in 'leisure activities' etc from a so-called college that anyone in HR in any serious business can check online only to find out you never actually had to leave your parents basement and grade scores where 'optional'. IT"S A RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!! As far as loan payments are concerned anyone can 'structure' their loan repayments according to their income.......assuming they then have knowledge/skills which can be used to the benefit of whoever is doing the hiring. You have one of those your odds of getting a 'real' job earning 'real' money sky rocket. BTW if your are one of those poor saps who were 'streamed' through high school by your local Liberal Indoctrination Center and now you can't read or write or do simple arithmetic and you're not positive a duck's a bird I wouldn't bother even thinking about going to college. You couldn't pass the entrance exam and yes a 'McCollege' will be delighted to take the money you've borrowed from the Government but after they mail you your degree (you'll never likely actually meet anyone from the college) what you'll have in your hand is a very expensive piece of ass wipe. Have a lovely day.

 

I agree. Parents are to busy today to care. Kids are enrolled in sports programs, multiple sports programs....to keep them busy. Education is not valued like it is in Asian cultures. Our schools are babysitters. Teachers can't use the red pen because it would single the kids out who are not performing. Can't give A's to some....that would make the others feel bad. Redistribute the grades....so no one will fail. Kids not respecting their parents let alone teachers or anyone else in authority. It all adds up.

 

Do we have a teacher on staff here grading posts? I see a few places where comas should have been used....also a few run-on sentences.

 

College definitely will prepare you for the "real" world -- it depends mostly on two things: 1. The quality of the university you attend. 2. Your degree plan (what you major in).

If you go to a good university (doesn't have to be an "Ivy League" school) and achieve a Bachelor's Degree, then you are already way ahead of the pack that thinks getting some kind of 2-year "associate's degree" at some street-corner "college" which is nothing more than a diploma-mill, is the same thing. As a retired manager in a Fortune 50 international corp., I can tell you that most of the people with these 2-year "degrees" don't even make it past the corporate recruiters and other "gate-keepers" for evaluation for better jobs.

It also helps to major in something that has value and worth in the economy, and which has enough "elasticity" to transform and evolve as both technologies and methodologies in society and economy require. Simply put: if you major in "basket-weaving", then you have prepared yourself to be a basket-weaver, right? If that makes you happy, then enjoy the life you have made for yourself. But, if you major in a field that prepares you to have your own basket-weaving corporation, and it makes you wealthy and happy, then enjoy the life you have made for yourself.

The biggest error of Socialism is that it creates the expectation that all you need to do to succeed in life is get a "credential" -- almost ANY kind of "credential", and then the society you live in becomes committed to reward you with all the desirable things in life, no matter what you achieve through your own merit.

A final note: if you're GOOD, and bring the right attributes and qualifications to the job market, hiring managers will recognize it after reading your resume, and they'll schedule an interview. But if you never make it past the recruiters, HR, and other "gate-keepers", the hiring managers won't even see you! Their biggest problem is getting the right person hired AFTER jumping through all the internal corporate hoops and complying with all the budget and HR "boilerplate", and mastering the internal "political" gyrations. They NEED good people... they're often DESPERATE for good people! But, are YOU among those "good people"...?

So... choose a really good school, with a high-accreditation, and, major in something that is worthwhile. Do THAT, and at least you will be on the right track! If you won't do that much, then don't waste your precious time or money farting around just trying to get a "credential".... Good luck!

 

So that's all you've got to add to the conversation? LOL Permanent Ignore. Why? Because forum members who are not adding anything intelligent to the conversation, on either side of the issue, are committing the worst sin possible on any forum. They are boring.

 

Just find a university with course study in 'Prepare you for the real world 101'...

 

That's right and it starts in the home and what parents teach their kids about responsibility and being accountable for their mistakes. And nowadays so many parents don't do this....

 

I would be curious if you could find a source that there is a shortage in those fields. I wouldn't rule it out. Although generally I think trying to get most people in position to be in a job creating field isn't a bad idea. Still you don't want to hamstring your economy with a shortage of tradesmen.

Oh, I'm on the other side of all that. The loans didn't last long, though it wasn't nearly that much. Checking at my school they expect four years of tuition, fees, room, board, books, and epenses to be just over 60 k even now after tuition has been rising fast.

So I'm very happy with that choice.

 

Converting a mass of high school dolts into college degreed dolts, with useless degrees, does nothing but make bankers rich and politicians powerful.

 

even 60K is a boatload of cash if your degree is useless, as most are.
we'd all be better off if most stayed away from college, forcing employers to have no choice but to hire non degreed folks.
College should be for specialized training only. The bankers hate that idea.

But as long as we don't mind pissing our money away...........

 

But it does prepare you. For you see, you must learn to jump through hoops when asked and kiss the professor arse 24/7, amass great amounts of useless data and retain it, and be indoctrinated to be a left winged socialist. Only then can you be trusted with a job that pays well.

 

Not to worry, the democrats are hard at work to lower the percentage of interest on that $100.000 student loan and no one will be denied the loan!!!

 

Making college affordable, by creating a bubble.
How neat.

 

This is what is really stupid about the current public education system; whether having attentive parents or not has a huge impact on the development of the child.

If we know 'most' kids do not have parents, or are challenged with parents, etc., then why would we expect them to be involved?

IMO a public education system MUST be designed to achieve maximum child development without any expectations of parental involvement. This means whatever must be taught, whatever must be studied, whatever school work must be completed, must be achieved during normal school hours...no homework. This does not mean kids should not be encouraged to perform extracurricular studies/reading, etc. or to avoid their parents.

Why isn't a college education free? Why do we provide some education to grade 12 then stop? This is really stupid!!

The first step to help resolve most of our problems is to have a better educated public...

 

College is no magic bullet.

You first need to know what colors your parachute.

If you did not already figure that out in high school then you may just be wasting your time at college.

Better to take a few years off first, join the Army or the Navy or the Peace Corps, experience the real world, and find out what really interests you in life and work.

THEN go to college sure, by all means. But not until you are ready for it.

 

I don't even believe in public education at all. Take a good look in California alone -- it does not accomplish much of anything for those hippy kids.

 

It's funny how almost all skilled or specialized jobs these days require a college education yet the uneducated still talk about being prepared for the "real world". What real world are you guys talking about? The real world where you are subjected to manual labor or making minimum wage most of your life? And yea yea yea, we all know everyone on the internet who didn't go to college is filthy rich and everyone they know that went to college is poor. Unfortunately, the data does not coincide with your incredibly limited view of the "real world". In my "real world" college isn't even an option, it is just what my family and friends do.

 

If you don't have a public education system, who do you believe will educate the American public?

Don't you believe that it's in the best interest of the USA to have an educated public?

There are millions of kids who achieve great successes in CA. No matter national rankings, kids all across CA are doing just fine...don't carelessly discount them.

 

Sure it does. It teaches kids that collectivism is good and that we need to tax the rich to make the world a better place. It also teaches them that gay sex is OK, there is no God, and society owes them a living.

Now the democrat party ownes its indoctrinated citizens.

Like Hitler once said, why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the populace.

Nicely done DNC.

 

You learn none of that in school. Embarrassing!

 

96% of California school districts provide comprehensive sexual health education. For those that do, section 51933 of the California Education Code demands that same sex unions are to be discussed and presented as an viable and equal alternative to heterosexual unions.

As for a left winged ideology, I've encountered that throughout my academic life all the way through college so save me the additional propaganda that I received in my education. Not one teacher or professor was right leaning. This is because Big Brother focuses on people attaining larger and larger college loans by reducing interet rates and forcing lenders to give to students. That way, college tuition keeps going up and up. In fact, everyone seems to be hurting except for those in universities these days. The only problem now is that more and more kids can't find work once they graduate, so the gig may be up soon.

As for God, I would say that by not taking a position on morality and discipline and raising children in an amoral atomosphere is still taking a stance. I scoff at the illusion of neutrality.

 

funny lol. if it were that easy.

 

Let me put it to you this way. Does one who obtains an education degree actually learn the art and skill of teaching?

The answer is generally no. An education degree allows the person to obtain the all too important education certificate, some basic educational knowledge, and specific scholastic educational knowledge, ie English, Math, Science, etc. Until the person obtaining the deducation degree actually goes into the teaching field, such as a lab tutor or a lab instructor, they do not learn those specific skills.

 

I was making two separate points. You decided to combine them into one.