Why doesn't UK trust Liberalism, why doesn't our friends the US trust Socialism?

Cameron did it for no other reason than to try and sort the rift that has existed within the Tory party for at least 25 years. Party before country, May's snap election was for the benefit of the party again, nothing more, and it backfired spectacularly. When the dust settles and people realise the mess we are in the Tory party will not be electable in the foreseeable future. If indeed we still have a UK which I doubt!

 

From Theresa May whilst in Paris:

That's not the way it works in a referendum. It just doesn't go away, because it has been voted/approved by parliament.

E. Macron (president of France:

It would take an anti-Brexit referendum to do so. Methinks.

The will of the people expressed in a referendum is the will of the people. For good or for bad ...

 

Regardless. It was wrong and the vote proves it. Cameron never thought the Brits would have the courage to vote for Brexit.

So, now they will have to learn the lesson of "why we want to join a common market" all over again.

It is almost like two generations ago (when Britain joined), the Brits have learned nothing regarding the benefits of an expanded market-economy. (That of the EU is - with Britain - 731 million consumers against 320 million in the US!)

A market-economy, because of Supply & Demand, is all about the number of consumers; and thus Total Demand for goods/services.

A country that fiddles with that notion, does so at its peril ...

 

What was forgotten was that successive governments (Tory and Labour) have spent years blaming anything people did not like on the EU, so it was hardly surprising that the UK voted the way they did.

 

Don't know about that.

I lived in the UK for some years and was amused at the stories I heard about "across the channel" as if it were another planet. All pub-talk, so I figured it was the beer.

That was more than 30 years ago, so something has changed to harden notions about the UK's participation in the EU. Moreover, it must be said, that some of the newer eastern-Europe countries also have similar thoughts.

But, I like to think these are normal in times of a major recession - that was imported from the US. And which the EU is finally pulling itself out ...

 

The EU was blamed for everything from the shape of banana's (i kid you not) to not being able to export terrorists.

 

That's because they wanted to make them all long and straight.
I miss the days when it was all about weight and fruit, instead of flags and armies.

 

I miss the "flags and armies". And particularly, the Zeig Hiel!

Poor Adolph ...

 

No thats because the supermarkets wanted them long and straight and lobbied the EU to bring in rules, then like the cowardly ****s the corperations are they blamed the EU, clueless!

 

Labour has always been pro referendum. Always offered it in their manifestos. Just as they always offer an EU referendum before our joining.
Labour's "centre left" manifesto was for hard Brexit. No customs union, no single market, no free movement. (justice courts?)

Lib Dems were the EU party. (also Green party).
All the other parties were anti EU in public commitment but never in actual action. And I don't for a minute think the Tories did it by choice. Not one.

Labour caused Brexit. When Labour cheated the British public out of the referendum they promised us, all of this was set into motion.
All that you have seen and will see is a consequence of that action.
They cheated and they thought they had got away with it. The smile on Blair's face.

Gone now.

 

Yes, poor Adolph, didn't live to see it.








Embarrassingly un-scary. Preferring the Red Parade in Moscow muchly. In fact I'm more terrified by my village fete.
They want it, they want the private army, the trappings of Hitler, but they are clowns.

 

Tell that to the French, the Irish and the Dutch.
They all got made to revote. Make no mistake if they think for a second they can get away with that here, they will try and indeed are trying. But er... Standing up and publicly declaring his course of action increases your life insurance premiums. It would be an unwise politician indeed who started crowing for this in the streets. Darwin award winner.

 

The Liberal Democrats lost their credibility after joining the Tory coalition government with Nick Clegg as a deputy prime minister, which was like Sanders joining the Trump administration as a VP. Liberal Democrats' political stance is similar to Bernie Sanders' and their policies do not agree with the Tories.

 

The country is too harsh on the Liberal Democrats who had to play second fiddle to David Cameron after David Cameron engaged in beastiality and necrophilia - the aftermath of which, when this alleged pig incident happened many years ago had became public;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ed-after-life-threatening-kidney-failure.html

 

You are sick, sick, sick and sickening.

Get help ...

 

Cameron famously shagged a dead pigs mouth at a drinking club when he was a university student.
Think, the boars head on the dinner table, the one with the apple in it's mouth. Only it wasn't his apple. It was his banana.

 

Who would trust traitors like these:

 

Blaming is easy. Finding the fault is harder ...

 

The UK voted the way it did because, like the rest of Europe, it was coming out of a recession gifted by their friends on the other side of the Atlantic.

Cameron was a fool to not see what was coming. Politicians are elected as the voice of their constituencies, which is quite sufficient. There was no need for an effing "referendum" when most Brits where so bamboozled by their economy they were collectively contemplating their navel.

Had the referendum (date, June 2016) been done today, it would have likely failed. See unemployment timeline here:

The unemployment rate has been coming down from its high of 8.5% since June, 2012. The vote was the manifestation of stored resentment over the high unemployment provoked by the Great Recession in the US (2008/10).

Children will be children ....

 

The UK has consistently voted not to join the EU and consistently voted to leave the EU. For around 25 years now.

After the US recession, and even after the EU recession, popularity for the EU has been increasing.
So we started this journey with 76% polling "no" to the EU in the 90's, and ended with only 51% last year.
Every single party who won a General election in the last 25 years had a manifesto commitment to EU referendum. And the two big party's had that commitment in each election they campaigned in.

So what didn't happen is the UK turned against the EU.
What actually happened is the reverse. The UK softened to the EU.
It started from an incredibly high position of public opposition and became more accepted by the public over time.

At the point where Europhiles thought public opinion had changed to Pro EU, they went for the referendum to legitimise it.
But it isn't legitimate. They failed.


And rich or poor, we don't like being cheated. We take offence to it. So you can keep your promises of money and wealth because you are cheats and your promises are worthless.

Unemployment rate is down. Doesn't help me get a job.
Only way I get to work is if I undercut EU migrants on minimum wage.
Got more EU migrants in the UK than Scots. More EU migrants in the UK than Welsh. More EU migrants in the UK than the Irish. A fifth nation, born on our shores.

Not much help to me that they have all got a job. In fact, I want their jobs.
They used to be.... my jobs.