Why don't we have educational ads like this one against Covid?

I've been saying here forever that Alex Azar kept promising but we never got an educational campaign off the ground, to teach people about the coronavirus. Given that I often watch international satellite TV from several different countries, I've seen it efficiently done elsewhere. Here, watch this; it's genial. Cute and effective. I don't know if this one has aired in America; maybe it has and I missed it; but in any case, I wish we had more of this kind of thing. I'm not for mask mandates... I'm for educating the population and making of masks a public health tool, not a political banner.

 

Covid-19 must be so many times more contagious than Influenza it isn't even funny. Under normal Years, there are 25 to 50 Million cases of Influenza in the United States annually only, but because of the the increase in Mask wearing, disinfectants and generally better hygiene, Influenza has been reduced to almost nothing, but Covid-19 cases and Deaths are continuing to Rage across the United States despite those increase precautions were taking. I can only imagine the amount of cases and Deaths Covid-19 would cause around the world if it had happened back in the middle ages where People didn't understand Virus's like we do today. Covid-19 would probably be like the Bubonic Plague in those times.

 

Cloth masks don't protect you from the covid and washing them in your own piss doesn't help any. Whoever came up with this crapola should be punished.

 

So you're under the belief that at the beginning of 2020, had the United States just gone about life as normal, Not wearing Masks, No Social distancing and no additional precautions for Personal Hygiene, that we'd have as many Cases and Deaths or possibly LESS! from Covid-19 than we have right now.

 

keep your hands clean, don't touch your eyes and like with the common cold, if you are sick, keep away from others.

 

Just saw on the News that Covid-19 has killed more people than Influenza has in the last 10 years, I'm assuming that was just in the United States. That's with all the enhanced precautions you mentioned above and it's still that bad. Just shows how contagious and lethal a Novel Virus is to Mankind.

 

I cannot imagine that people are in any way unaware. They may be willfully ignorant. Not sure how things are in other places, but there are signs besides roadways in my area reminding people to wear masks, etc. Most reputable stores have signs on them, cleaning stations, and have a plethora of masks they hand out to people who have forgotten theirs. Sure there are still people who don't wear them. Sometimes they forget. I forgot one time before I went into a store and then as soon as I saw someone with a mask I was "Crap!! I forgot my mask" and ran back out to the car. The other day I was in a store and this old black guy looked at me and said the more colorful version of "crap I just realized forgot my mask". There is no reason to run ads mentally terrorizing people. They already get it. Some just elect to be defiant.

 

maybe we could get Al Gore to take on this topic and again push unsubstantiated "facts"

 

Everything YOU need to know
Courtesy of South Park Pandemic Special
featuring Dr. Fauci too
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So, you think that masks don't work, despite all the scientific evidence I've published here multiple times, huh?

There is nothing in this cartoon that is not factual, except that for the sake of demonstrating the entire cycle, obviously the incubation period there is pretty short (seconds instead of days, LOL). But everything else is factual: that infected people who sneeze shed droplets carrying the virus, that others can acquire the virus from touching their face with contaminated hands or breathing it in through the nose, that masks reduce the likelihood that this will happen as long as they cover both the mouth and the nose, that washing the masks with soap and water kills the virus, and washing hands and maintaining a distance of two arms-length from people also reduce transmission.

 

Yes, indeed, the SARS-CoV-2 is much more infectious than the influenza virus, a fact well known to virologists and epidemiologists and posted here over and over (but there are still those who ignore it or try to minimize it). Typically a R naught number for the seasonal flu is around 1.2 while for Covid-19 it's been up to 5.7, and now we are getting more infectious strains.

Yes, when people say that the Spanish Flu killed more than Covid-19 (estimated at 600,000 Americans) they forget three things: one, that Covid-19 is not over yet and it is not impossible that we'll get to 600,000 when it's all said and done, especially considering that the Spanish Flu had three waves, the second and third ones being worse than the first one - we may still see the same with Covid-19; two, that the Spanish Flu happened at a time when there were no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections, no advanced ventilators, no Remdesivir, no monoclonal antibodies, and all the other elements of modern Covid-19 treatment protocols; three, the conditions of sanitation and housing were worse in 1918-19 than they are today.

Yes, Covid-19 in 1918-19 would literally make a killing...

 

They don't protect 100% of course (no masks do) but they protect some. What are you talking about, washing them in your own piss? The lady is washing them in detergent which does kill the virus. The lipid layer around the virus is gone with soap (or detergent) and water and the virus inactivates in seconds; about 20 seconds. Where do you get your facts????

 

That too, but masks help (to some degree and as long as they are worn correctly, and donned and doffed properly).

 

My point is that sensible ad campaigns (like I've seen very well done in international TV) from the beginning would have made of these sensible and cheap epidemiological containment measures and tools, something accepted and routine, instead of a political hot potato. And see, this ad is UNICEF; if you are not familiar with them, they are the United Nation's children fund for public health initiatives. So, it's addressed to children, who often are unruly and harder to keep compliant with masks. So, you see, the ad shows some unreasonable adults getting sick, but reassuringly shows the little girl and her mother being healthy and protected, so it's not that terrifying. Anyway, there are other campaigns I've watched... some better done, some not as much... but what I'm saying is that in many other countries there was a concerted effort to educate the population but... not here.

Oh, there are ignorant people out there... and our overall acceptance of masks, although it grew, is still insufficient especially when compared to other countries. We are at 60% to 75% depending on the state... while Japan for example is at 99%.

Like I said, I favor educational campaigns rather than politicized mandates.

And yes, people are unaware... in this very thread you see two posters saying that masks don't work...

 

open your eyes!!! the same piece of cloth has been hanging on most folks rear-view mirrors for months, used and re-used. That is the reality. The mask is symbolic and to most, provides a cone of protection around their bodies. I'd rather see people "work without a net" and you may actually see them practice good hygiene.

 

Do you seriously think that *I* need to open my eyes??? I know all the limitations and know everything that there is to know about masks and have been teaching people about them here for months, different kinds, different degrees of relative risk reduction, caveats, issues with overconfidence and improper use, how many times reuse is reasonable, etc., etc., and I've posted literally hundreds of scientific studies on the topic. So, you say people are reusing them for too long, cloth masks not as effective, etc., don't you think that I know all that? That's precisely why I'm saying that educational campaigns are needed. I posted one example of a cute one.

 

If that's how you use them, that's on you for failing to educate.

If you aren't wearing because other people are stupid and do use them like that; also on you, for not adding to the layer of protection.

Why is the concept of viral load so confusing for people?

Let's say you have to get punched in the head, and no matter WHAT you do, you are going to get hit in the head.

You can take steps, though, to get hit in the head 60% less than you will. Do you take that step, or nah?

If I'm going to get hit in the head, and can get hit less one less time than I have to, I will do what it takes to get hit one less time.

Viral load.

 

I really never thought about Covid-19 in terms of Viral Load. I guess if you are exposed to a very small amount of Covid-19, it's easier for your Body to build up it's immunities and Fight it before it gets out of hand, but if you're a Health care worker in an environment that has a High concentrations of Covid-19 floating around from Patients in a Hospital and you breath it in at a much Higher Concentration per inhalation, you're body is going to have a much harder time building up the immunities to fight it. Kind of like being attacked by a small army as opposed to a Large army of Virus's, the small Army can be defeated easy, while the Big Army overwhelms it's Victim. That's why Masks help filter down the concentration of Virus particles breathed in.

 

thank you for mentioning viral load. Walking past someone on the street does not require a mask. You want viral load??? Stop requiring buttons to be pressed or pins to be entered when paying with a debit/credit card. Stop cash transactions. Stop allowing customers to touch items. You see, no mask protects you from any of that and we can all agree that it would be darn near impossible to have people refrain from touching things. Workers need to touch things, auto mechanics slide in an out of your car and touch things, gas pumps etc etc etc

the body will build immunity and yes, folks will die from this virus much like every other virus

the mask is symbolic of doing something, albeit useless. Lock downs kill businesses and peoples livelihoods.

 

ABSOLUTELY I do. You live in la-la land to think that the maskinistas will stop re-using the same piece of cloth for months, will stop rubbing their eyes and nose or fidgeting with the mask. As i stated, open your eyes. That is the real world and it's time for you to enter it.
We are 10 months into Covid and the average folk have grown numb to it. The media keeps pushing their hysteria and statist politicians continue to try and over-step their authority.

Yes, folks will die from Covid. Today, worldwide, there are still deaths from Tetanus and even here in the USA. Treatments for Covid will improve but, we must allow people to go about their lives. If we do not, then we have basically consigned our freedoms to elected and unelected govt workers .

 

Thank you for the information, Dr. Sec.

 

is that all you have? Feel free to refute anything that I posted.

 

lol. No. If you don't know by now, it's because you don't want to. Arguing at this point, is literally pointless.

 

thank you for understanding how it is for us when discussing items with you. You see, we agree to disagree; and you kneel at the altar of the mask and govt control, and I look to reality and how we live with this virus for a long time, much like other corona viruses.

 

Who is us? Feel free to not engage with me.

I can hate government and support science at the same time.