Why don't we hear about the Bible's Antichrist verses?

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  1. Outsidethebox

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    THE ANTICHRIST

    1 The Antichrist is called “the little horn.” – Daniel 7:8 The word “trump” appears twice in the KJV bible, which was published in 1611, as an abbreviation of “trumpet” or “little horn.” The little horn has “the eyes of a man and boasts great things.”

    2 The Antichrist has the mouth of a lion – Rev. 13:2

    3 The Antichrist is arrogant, shall exalt himself above others – Daniel 8:25

    4 The Antichrist will “throw truth to the ground.” – Daniel 8:12 - Trump’s 30,000 false or misleading statements while in office.

    5 The Antichrist will be a vile person – Daniel 11:21

    6 The Antichrist does as he pleases – Daniel 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and boast against every god, and will speak dreadful things… and he will be successful until the indignation is finished” – Daniel 11:36 NASB - Trump: “I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss, I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the *****. You can do anything.”

    The Antichrist will love money as it is the “root of all kinds of evil.” – 1 Timothy 6:10 Trump said “My whole life I’ve been greedy, greedy, greedy for money. I grabbed all the money I can get. I’m so greedy.”

    The Antichrist will honor the “god of forces” Apollo (Apollyon), the sun god. “In his estate he shall honor the God of Forces, a god his father knew not, he shall honor with gold, silver, precious stones, and other pleasant things.” – Daniel 11:38 - On the ceiling of Trump’s golden penthouse is a reproduction of the “Aurora Fresco.” Aurora flies over a dim-lit landscape, leading a blond Apollo on his horse-drawn chariot, bringing light to the world. AKA “The Triumph of Apollo led by the Aurora.” When was this mural painted on Trump’s ceiling?

    The Antichrist will disguise himself as an “angel of light” – 2 Corinthians 11:15 - He will masquerade as a force for good, and defender of Christian values, but really defending mostly HIMSELF

    The Antichrist is revealed as the “man of lawlessness” and by the “falling away” or “rebellion” (insurrection) from Christ to the Antichrist (Jan 6 Capitol Riot) - 2 Thessalonians 2: 3

    The Antichrist sows discord - Proverbs 6:14 - “Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually. He sows discord.” He intentionally divides groups of people AGAINST each other for his own benefit. He uses a divide and conquer strategy to weed out those who would oppose him. Anyone who criticizes him is evil.

    The Antichrist works deceitfully – Daniel 11:23 - “He shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up and shall become strong with a small people” [MAGA and the electoral college]. “Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule.” Trump’s deceptiveness was so pervasive that his own attorneys would only meet with him in pairs to prevent 2 different versions of the same story.

    The Antichrist understands dark sentences or sinister schemes – Daniel 8:23 - “A king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall standup” - He is a master of intrigue and machination, which is scheming or crafty action, to accomplish an evil end.

    The Antichrist attains the kingdom by flattery – Daniel 11:21 - “And in His estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honor of the kingdom: but He shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries or smoothness, slipperiness, or fine promises (Mexico will pay for the wall) scheming with a small group of people. American Christian Nationalism serves Trump in his quest to regain power to serve himself.

    The Antichrist will amaze the world – Rev. 13:3 - He steals headlines daily, by one outrageous comment after another.

    The Antichrist will come in his own name and be accepted - John 5:43 - "I came in my Father's name, and you received me not. If another shall come [Trump] in his own name, you will receive."

    The Antichrist will deny the Father and the Son. He said he does not seek God’s forgiveness, thus denying the need for a savior – 1 John 2:22

    The Antichrist is connected to gold – Rev. 13:18 King Solomon became obsessed with gold and pagan gods during his later years. Trump’s obsession with gold and “pleasant things” is like King Solomon.

    The Antichrist will have a “covenant with many for one week” – Daniel 9:27

    The Antichrist has the ultimate ego to call himself God [president] 2 Thessalonians 2:4 Trump called himself the “Chosen One” as he looked up into the sky. He is not battling evil, as QAnon and MAGA would have you believe, he is battle those who oppose him. Not about doing anything for anyone, but about elevating himself and destroying his enemies, like a WWE pro wrestler. He perfectly aligns with the biblical descriptions of an antichrist. Nobody else on the world stage even comes close.

    Bible Verses Identifying Donald Trump as the Antichrist (youtube.com)
     
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    What do you personally think of this theory?


    Is Bill Gates the rider on the White Horse of Revelation six?


    Perhaps influential people do not want to face the cognitive dissonance that goes along with digging into this topic????
     
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    Perhaps we need a new section of PF called All Things Trump. lol
     
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    Just another collection of isolated verses from distinct books with no real connections or context, culled to invent a fable and fake points. Yawn.
     
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    Don't mix up personal beliefs with personal political opinions. It all will end in political campaigns and violence.
     
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    does MAGA really believe in the bible?
     
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    As long it's a biography about him, I assume so, yes.
     
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    well it does talk about the Golden Calf
     
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    Sometimes the devil isn't what you see, but what you don't. Trump is a newcomer to politics. All those character pointers could be turned to point to the Democrat party and liberal counter culture movement which has gained power, steered and corrupted this nation for about fifty years. It pulls down old fashioned values, exalts immorality, and says that it will save everyone, placing itself in the stead of God and righteousness.

    There was no supernatural nature to the Trump Presidency. His admin made our borders more secure, our military stronger, and our nation and the world safer from terrorists. It finished off ISIS and the middle east wars, did not start new wars, negotiated better trade deals, bullied UN members to pay more of their fair share, negotiated the Abraham Accords normalizing relations between Israel and several Arab nations, negotiated and passed comprehensive prison reform ensuring early release to tens of thousands of non violent criminals, gave us the best economy ever breaking records across the board as far back as records have been kept, and added millions of acres to the nations parks for the publics use. There was nothing supernatural about it. Just hard work and proper prioritization by his administration. His refusal to be made a patsy by the left, doesn't make him the devil. So the lefts options to Trump of either be my b**** or go to hell doesn't take into account the third option, which is that the left can go to hell instead.
     
  11. Outsidethebox

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    Do the bible verses sound like Biden or Trump?

    Mouth of a lion....is arrogant and exalts himself above everything....is called the "little horn" Trump is abbreviation for "God's trumpet" in the KJV which was published in 1611... he will throw truth to the ground....he will be a vile person (sounds like Biden?)....he does as he pleases (I just start kissing. I don't even wait, just kiss. And when you're a star they let you do it...." (sounds like Biden?)....he will love money (Trump said "I'm so greedy" and "I'm really rich!")....he will honor the god of forces (Apollo, Apollyon, the sun god, on the ceiling of Trump Tower)....he works deceitfully....“He shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up and shall become strong with a small people” [MAGA and the electoral college]. “Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule.”....30,000 false or misleading statements in 4 years in office.....he will amaze the world (Biden?)

    The Antichrist will succeed in all that he does – Daniel 8:24 “His power will be great, but it will not be His own. He will cause terrible destruction (Covid mismanagement] and succeed in whatever He does. He will destroy the mighty men along with the holy people.” Trump has attained everything he wanted through devious means. The world considers him a great success. He will never stop until he attains power and takes revenge on his enemies.

    The Antichrist is a unique, unstoppable force that can’t be fought against – Rev. 13:4 “And they worshipped the dragon which gave power to the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying “Who is like unto the beast? Whom can make war with Him?” Trump values loyalty above all else, being disloyal to him is treason. He has perfected the art of flattery to get what he wants, and has succeeded at all he does. He has a stout look, he sows discord purposely to divide and conquer, to elevate himself while destroying his enemies. He is that unstoppable force that no one can fight against. Nobody else on the world stage comes even close to matching ALL the biblical descriptions of the Antichrist. That “Man of Lawlessness” is Donald Trump.

    This final verse suggests that Biden cannot beat Trump, only divine intervention can stop him. As Trump's Covid mismanagement was painfully obvious to the nation, stopped Trump in 2020. What divine intervention will it take this year?
     
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    Somewhere, the Anti-Christ is insulted that someone compared him to Donald.
     
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    lol too many cranks here on this forum to read them all, especially the TDS sufferers.

    The Peanut Gallery can amuse themselves with looking up the chaistic literary structures of Revelation and parsing it in tandem with its links to the rest of the biblical texts.

    There is nothing 'random' in the bible and it is no collection of isolated verses. The original texts weren't even numbered or in 'books', for one.

    In any case some people have a need to rewrite whatever it is they don't like or they want to make others think they're 'special' prophets n stuff so pay little attention to the millions of cranks out there, especially on the innernetz.
     
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    Trumps faults or shortcomings are glaring. You can see him coming a mile away. He even jokingly bragged off the record that he can "grab them by the p****, and they don't say anything". The real devil is far more subtle, methodical and ingratiating, slowly wrapping his coils around you along the course and then suddenly seizing your soul in the end. Nobody sees Trump as the kindly sort who will save them. He's just a rough man who will tackle the job. Trump isn't one to sing the sweet siren song, calling ships to the rocks. It is always the Democrat who sings the sweet song, who says he/she loves us and will save us and make everything alright, even while they wreck the nation, divide the races, stoke division, create dependence, and turn morality upside down.
     
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    So Donald’s lack of moral virtue proves that he is virtuous?
     
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    Does it prove the virtue of his accusers? He doesn't pretend to be Mr morality and make of himself a hypocrite. Neither does he promote immorality as morality, thereby turning reason upside down, as would an antichrist for the purpose of enticing and corrupting the nation. So I shake my head when hordes of socialists, communists, and sexual deviants on the left point their fingers at him, declaring him an existential threat when in fact they are it...a living threat to our constitution and to civilization. They are corrupted. So they should love Trump if he's as bad as they say. Trump is a threat to where they want to take our nation. That's all. They magnify his shortcomings until that's all that he is to them. But its not to ones own redemption to see only the faults in another. Trump is just a gruff businessman who doesn't curtsy to political correctness. That doesn't make him an antichrist or a Moses.
     
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    Just a gruff businessman who doesn’t curtsy to political correctness. lol He does a lot of curtsying to the morals and ideals of the evangelical Christians. He’s trying to raise money by selling bibles!

    Donald panders to the right. Biden panders to the left.
     
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    Being a petty and somewhat juvenile playboy is hardly pandering to evangelicals. And the God Bless The USA Bible is someone else's product, which Trump is helping to sell by endorsement. Personally I think its a pretty cool Bible, because it includes the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Seeing that our freedom and equality are based on the existence of God, then the addition of our founding documents to that book are not a contradiction, but rather a reintroduction of the truth to our current generation. The separation of church and state should not be construed to mean the abolition of God from our national discourse. In life we are naturally unequal physically, emotionally, intellectually, and circumstantially. But in God we are the same in the divine inheritance of rights and rights held equally. We fought a war on this concept to secure our independence so as to practice it. That's how our nation came to be.
     
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    That you have to minimize Donald’s responsibility for selling or endorsing a bible shows that you agree that he’s pandering.
     
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    It doesn't make him a good president either.
     
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    Better than the alternative. The first Trump administration was very successful for our nation and the world.
     
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    I don't see it as pandering for him to use his clout to help someone else promote a good product. Is it Trumps fault that the Democrat party is anti God in pandering to the sins of the nation?
     
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    It's unlikely Trump is the Antichrist because "the whole world" will love him, and he will be very popular with the people.

    I could totally see Trump setting up a golden statue of himself to have people worship and admire it, though.
     
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    This looks like a false equivalence. Donald's pandering is 100X Biden's.

    "JUST" a gruff businessman? More like a pathological liar who learned Goebbels message to lie often enough and long enough, and people will believe it.

    Goebbels: "A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth."

    "Joseph Goebbels, the chief propagandist of Nazi Germany, used the term “Big Lie” to describe a propaganda technique. According to this principle, if a falsehood is repeated frequently enough, people will eventually accept it as truth. The idea behind the Big Lie is that people would find it difficult to believe that someone could distort the truth so infamously."

    Big lie - Wikipedia
     

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    Just say that you believe "the ends justify the means." That is the belief of Nazi Germany.

    Trump does promote immorality. He advocated to Billy Bush that when you're a star they let you sexually assault women. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING!" IF you are a star.

    He assumed that Tim Scott "MUST REALLY HATE NIKKI HALEY" for a petty reason. He does promote immorality; you just don't notice it. This is less than 2 minutes, and we see his hatred, greed, and extreme narcissism.


    He even joked that his favorite thing was SEX with his daughter!!
     
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