Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

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  1. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    And you get this nonsense from where? Industry data show new gun owners at an all time high. There are more gun ranges than ever before and of course sales are all time highs.
     
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    That's just yesterday, what about the entire life-time of the gun?
     
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    True but the percent of people who actually have them has fallen.
     
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    Not true and industry data show otherwise. More liberal fantasy built around a flawed survey. Old news.
     
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    Or it can simply represent diminishing returns. Once you get homicide down to a certain level it gets harder and harder to reduce it significantly. With the rate we have there is plenty of room for improvement.

    Gun violence isn't just affected by gun control laws, its also affected by the percent of households who actually own them, and the percentage of crime-prone minorities living in the country.
     
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    Considering the number of firearms and drugs successfully smuggled back and forth across the border between the united state and the nation of Mexico, there is not much difference in the two.

    Again, how many decades will it take to simply implement the system, and say with certainty that every last firearm in current circulation has been successfully registered to an existing person? How long will it be, before a return on the investment is possible to demonstrate?

    The united states is not the united kingdom, however. The legal landscapes are as different from one another as possible. Never mind the comparison between apples and oranges, comparing the laws of the two nations would be like comparing apples to cinder blocks.

    Beyond such, the cited example did not involve buyers turning against the sellers. Rather it involved co-conspirators in the trafficking organization being apprehended with the goods, and made to turn on those who were higher up in the organization. They were package couriers, not low-level criminals looking to procure a single firearm.
     
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    A statement which cannot be factually proven.
     
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    Or we could just let the dindu's kill each other off and then the homicide rate will fall.
     
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    Nope, I don't believe that, I believe that black American culture creates more violent individuals than White American culture, I went to a country called Dominica once-mainly black IIRC and it had almost ZERO violence
     
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    i dunno what the '60k' is, that was someone else
     
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    Your claim is false:
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    Your claim is false:
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    Actually confirmed by many studies:
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    It won't fall to rates seen in other developed countries as the average for whites and white areas is much higher than Europe and Canada.
     
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    Actually its murder rate is 20 per 100,000 compared to 4 in the US and 1 in Europe.
     
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    Total BS. The data was based upon a telephone survey. Garbage in and garbage out. Meanwhile Industry data says otherwise. Boom and gone lib.
     
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    One claim made by the violence policy center, does not amount to proof from many studies. They are no more reliable than the national rifle association would be. Show the various other studies that confirm the same statement as being factually accurate.
     
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    No? It is where I live and just about everywhere else. Another liberal lie. Next.
     
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    Next Gallup:
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    Telephone surveys can be accurate as long as the demographics are adjusted. Here is one from gallup:
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    The homocide rate in white areas is between 1.1-4.7 with an average of about 2.5. In Europe it is between .6 and 1.5 and that is including their violent Muslim and gypsy minorities.
     
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    Does the gun industry measure the percentage of Americans who own guns? I don't think so. People can sure become confused about basic math concepts when it's convenient.
     
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    Or maybe they aren't accurate. Ask anyone here how they respond to a phone poll on gun ownership. Next.
     
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    You don't think so translates into you don't know. More BS.
     
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    It's better than anything you can come up with. The best information available shows the gun ownership rate is declining.
     
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