Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

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  1. QLB

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    Wrong. Many areas include Hispanic into the White category. Done.
     
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    That is two. Present the rest for review. Once that is done, demonstrate how the results were not only gathered, but proven as being scientifically and factually accurate. Show that such figures were not based solely on what some randomly contacted individuals admitted to over the telephone, when questioned by complete strangers.
     
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    Actually no. I mean non-hispanic whites.
     
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    Yet again with repeating the unproven claim that millions of firearms are being bought and horded by a minority of individuals. It is nothing more than speculation intended to fit a narrative.

    Irrelevant.
     
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    conjecture
    True. We just disagree on the method.

    Conjecture. If true, there's nothing to do about it. Car accidents are affected by the number of cars owned.
    If true, what do you propose to do about that?[/QUOTE]
     
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    Please provide supporting data.
     
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    You can translate it into whatever you want to distract attention away from the elephant in the room.
     
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    Thus meaning the best information available cannot be scientifically proven or replicated in a consistent manner. If the best you have is what random strangers tell you in response to random questions, you ultimately have nothing.

    Beyond such, does a decline in firearms ownership rates do anything to negate the fact that it is still a constitutionally held, recognized, and protected right? Does it overturn the rulings Heller, McDonald or Caetano and thus reverse their established precedent?

    Legally it does not matter if only five people in the entire united states choose to own firearms. It changes nothing.
     
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    Wrong. Industry data shows otherwise. Next.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    So you basically want a bunch of perfect studies. Let me ask you this. Even if the studies were imperfect how likely is it than they will all be pointing in the same general direction?
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    No you don't. You'd use any data no matter how flawed. Here's a huge hint. No one believes liberal lies anymore. Meanwhile gun sales take off as do training programs, gun ranges etc.
     
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    Actually I did.
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    BS. It is what it is. You have a BS telephone survey to show more BS. Gun sales are at all time highs and with them are support services. Then there are CCW date. Next.
     
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    I guess he could always compare himself to you as I would and know relatively
    speaking we 'd be more inclined to trust what the suspect is saying.

    But if you were really a LEO, then you would know if someone takes a plea and
    as part of the plea agrees to give testimony, if he or she is caught lying, his plea
    could and probably would be rejected.

    A criminal who buys a firearm from someone such as yourself who has made it
    clear he doesn't have a problem with gun owners selling to strangers would not
    be inclined to lie about it.


    And we can see here even when you have nothing on it, you can't seem to go a day
    being truthful.

    Tomorrow, maybe?
     
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    By your logic, any survey has zero value.
     
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    How was the data validated?
     
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    You did nothing but ignore the obvious. Meanwhile gun sales are at all time along with support services and CCW permits. You guys are laughable. No one believes you. Nada. Go away
     
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    No that's your logic. Meanwhile guns sales continue.
     
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    Now you're just trying to muddy the waters. The number of guns being sold is not a measure of the percentage of the population that owns guns. How easily people can become "confused" about basic mathematical concepts when it's convenient.
     
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    Are there surveys where the responses would be expected to be less than truthful?

    "Are you gay?"
    "Are you a member of NAMBLA or find children sexually attractive"?

    Since the phone number of the respondent can be tied to an address, voluntarily linking the two to a stranger on the phone increases the risk of future targeting for theft or confiscation. Pro-gun organizations never sponsor these types of surveys, and there is nothing to be gained by telling a stranger on the phone that there are guns in your home. However ever small the risk is, it's much greater than zero benefit to admitting to gun ownership.
     
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    Its hilarious that you hate the science. LOL
     
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    The percentage of the population that owns guns isn't important.
     
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    On the contrary, I think the General Social Survey which measures gun ownership does have a lot of value. So what if gun sales continue?
     
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    BS. CCW is at all time highs and industry data shows new gun owners at all time highs. You're just BS'ing yourself. Save your breath. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU.
     
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