Why Gun Control Laws Fail

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by 6Gunner, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Citation and needed for this idiotic assertion.

    You failed to provide any.

    You only demonstrated that the NRA opposes ADDITIONAL gun control laws which is a vast difference than ALL gun control.

    Provide some evidence for your claim.
     
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    Yeah we don't already have an opioid epidemic going on as it is or anything.

    Extremely addictive substances should not be legal. It's called addiction for a reason.
     
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    My only concern are violent felons, and violent felons shouldn't be released from jail in the first place.
     
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    There is no difference.
     
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    There is a difference between opposing ALL gun control laws and ADDITIONAL gun control laws.

    Now offer some proof to your claim that gun enthusiasts are against ALL gun control.

    ALL and ADDITIONAL are not even synonyms proving you are wrong and there is a difference.

    Now provide evidence for your claim
     
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    No there isnt
     
  7. Soupnazi

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    Once again there is a difference between ALL and ADDITIONAL.

    You are simply lying

    now provide evidence fr your claim that gun enthusiasts oppose ALL gun control.
     
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    You have to look at the parts.
    -The prohibition against felons owning guns was not intended to and indeed can not prevent them from doing do, in and of itself. I take no issue with this law.
    -The background check requirement - a separate law - is intended to prevent felons from breaking the law. As a law cannot prevent people from breaking another law, this requirement only restricts the law abiding and does not prevent felons from getting guns. As such, I oppose it.
    Opposition to the latter is in no way necessitates opposition to the former.
    It's well-established law - not exactly groundbreaking, or new, with oodles of jurisprudence behind it.
    It applies to voting as well, BTW.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Don't feed the troll.
     
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    and the government doesn't supply it to thousands upon thousands of its employees
     
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    Just making things up, things you can't prove.
     
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    Is that like starving yourself.
     
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    Darwin and the Law Of Natural Selection favor gun ownership versus the antithesis which is gun "control".

    A gun rights advocate walks down the street and several Negroes or Mexicans try to mug him/her and the gun advocate shoots them all and they die.

    Versus an anti gun advocate who walks down the same street and gets mugged and possibly killed.

    This shows how the anti's will soon become extinct due to their illogical emotional effeminate views against guns.
     
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    Oh, the irony.
     
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    He's correct. anyone who understands the law knows that.
     
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    you should poll the regular posters on this forum as to your claims. I suspect it would not come out the way I suspect you would want it to
     
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    you forget a few things

    many of the anti gun advocates are also either criminals or supporters of criminals. As a former prosecutor I used to deal with both. I'd hear this monthly at sentencing or in sentencing negotiations:

    Criminals are not responsible for being thugs. Rather they are victims of an unjust society that forces them to engage in crime because this unjust society doesn't allow them the proper opportunities to succeed.
     
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    Well I had more in mind the wimpy effeminate girlie men and women who vote for legislators who are anti gun, like Diane Feinstein and the Brady Bunch.

    Both Brady's -- hubby and wifey -- are now dead. Very good riddance.

    Brady got hit by a stray bullet not meant for him. That is no reason to take away everybody else's 2nd Amendment rights in the USA.
     
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    And again;
    A small 5 shot .38 special caliber revolver,
    ie the Charter Arms undercover I frame in a pocket type holster could save your life.
    Easy to hide, very conviniant.

    OHH WAIT ! Anecdotal, unproved,
    Japanese Gun Control........

    Blah Blah Blah.....
    Moar Gun Control !!!!!!

    Handguns are lil ugly things of scant practical value.........


    :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:
     
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    I have to chuckle at this. A good friend of mine from college inherited his grandfather's pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight in .30-06, and that rifle broke the laws of physics it was so accurate. I don't say that as hyperbole either; serious gun people will no doubt smirk with understanding, having certainly heard a litany of tales of guns doing the impossible, told by people not knowledgeable enough to realize how outlandish their claims of what their favorite firearm could supposedly do might be.

    But then.... my friend let me shoot that rifle. Obviously, the gods of accuracy saw it coming down the assembly line and pointed at it and anointed it and said: "That One." With that rifle I achieved feats of accuracy I won't elaborate upon as any knowledgeable enthusiast would promptly accuse me of falsehood. Frankly, if I hadn't experienced that rifle myself I wouldn't believe another person making half as outlandish of claims as to its capabilities; but it was simply incomprehensible to me what I could do with that rifle in my hands.

    My friend promised me at the time that if anything ever happened to him I would end up with that rifle... but I released him from that promise once his son was born. Either way, I still shake my head every time I remember that day on the range.
     
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    YES. that is the rifle. I too found mine extremely accurate. It was super light too which caused it to boot my cousins son off his seat when he fired it. His dad urged him to experience it. I had a Lyman 3x9 scope mounted on it I believe. It was stolen from me around 1981 which makes it harder for me to recall that particular scope. Still i had fired the M1-Garand a lot and found it not as accurate.
     
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    My friend had one of the old Weaver K4 fixed power scopes on it; built like a tank. I still shake my head at that rifle's capabilities.
     
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    This must explain my shooting buddy's DPMS DCM AR-15, his M1 carbine, his M1 Garand, his M1A...
    :)
     
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    Even money your buddy's just a good shot. Me, as much as I'd like to brag otherwise, am only a competent rifle shot as opposed to a great one; my ability with shooting handguns is much more highly developed than with rifles. That said, when I shot that Winchester I was doing things far beyond my personal capabilities as I would characterize them. At one point I even shot a 5-shot .27" group at 200 yards. Off-hand. With a 4-power Weaver optic.

    Yes, I know how outlandish that sounds; I couldn't have produced a group like that off a bench with a precision match rifle and a dedicated high magnification optic. But I did it with that model 70.
     
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    Quite good, actually.
    I, myself, do well enough when I can see.
    My personal best is 199-12x from 1000yds at Camp Perry - M700 in 6.5-06 with a 6-24x Bushnell. prone.
     
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