I was starting to post this in response to something somebody said in here, but instead I decided to post it in the general forum instead. And I am wondering how many other military-veterans agree with me.. ********** This should not come as a surprise to many, but parts of this should be explained once again. I largely have a pretty negative view of Civilians, and largely deal with them with contempt. Now understand, this is largely aimed at those civilians that deal with people like me with contempt. Military, especially career military. I see over and over some civilian (Right or Left Wing) pop in and give some really stupid comment, and all I can do is scratch my head and wonder at the stupidity that makes people actually think that way. I mean really, do you honestly think I am going to accept orders to storm into your house and take away all of your guns? I mean, do you honestly think that my pay is stealing food away from some starving child in the ghetto? Yes, I classify myself as "Conservative". Mostly because I believe in Conserving the status-quo, and that change should be made gradually, not in sudden jumps and leaps that cause instability. I believe strongly in compromise, and absolutely hate the idea of either party having either all control of the Government (Executive and both of the Legislative branches), or even more importantly a "Super-Majority" in any branch of Federal or State government. I consider myself a "Conservative", and also a "Moderate". I am a believer in compromise, and wish that both parties learned how to use it more. But even more importantly, I am so fracking sick and tired of one party demonizing the other. I am a military person through and through. I have served off and on since the first Reagan Administration. I have served under 5 Presidents now, and do what is ordered of me. And as of yet, I have never recieved an order that I see as in violation of the law, or the Constitution. I may not have liked all of them, but they have been lawfull, and have been carried out to the best of my ability. I have been invoted into the "Political Threads" in here many times, and have largely dipped my toe in, then left feeling that I should disinfect my toe from the filth that covered it from that dip. I am not a "political animal", and talking to me about "indoctrination" and "philosophies" largely leaves me with the feeling that I need to vomit. I could not care less about "Political Parties" or "Manifestos". My main influences are History (because the past often repeats itself), and what is a "Clear and Present Danger". To be blunt, I really could not care less. Love me, Hate me, Dispise me, it really does not matter to me. I do my job, and try to remind myself that I do so in the hopes that my children will never have to do so themselves. People have called me a fascist and a murderer. They have spit on me. Then again, they have thanked me for my service, and shaken my hand and even tried to pay for my meals and drinks. I do not want any of that, good or bad. I do not do what I do for personal gain, but because I honestly get personal pleasure from serving my Country, and the People of my Country. And in also serving the People of other countries. It makes me happiest when some citizen of the country I am in at the time comes up and thanks me for being there for them. I get more personal enjoyment from that then from 1,000+ Americans telling me the same thing. Yea, some Californian tells me I am a worthless piece of filth because I am in uniform while I put gas in my truck on my way home from a long week of work away from my wife. I could not care less, because I still remember that Kuwaiti citizen thanking me, and that means more to me then what that neo-hippie with his mind full of 420 would ever mean. Yea, I admit, I am writing this late on a Saturday night. I have probably had a bit more to drink then I should. Then again, for the last 2 months I have seen my wife an average of 2 days a week, and been working mostly from 6am until 8pm. And no, I do not get overtime. I am on a salary, and for living in Northern California it is rediculously low. But I do not do what I do for money. Frack, I left a company as a Senior Computer Technician in 2007 to go back into the military (at the age of 42). I have MCSE, Novell Certs, A+, and am on the tail end of A+, N+, CCNA, CCNE, and live in the Bay Area. Can anybody say "$60k+"? But I would turn all that away in a heartbeat to be back on active duty, in my sub-$30k military job. I could not care less about praise. I could not care less about shiny things on my uniform. I have always wanted to, and still do serve my country to the best of my ability. And also any country that my own offers it's protection over. My wife of over 25 years has put up with a lot of deployments, a lot of absences. And she sometimes even reads over my shoulder in here. And trust me, you do not want to read what she says. Ironically, in many ways she is even more militant then I am, and she is a "Democrat". To wrap this rambling post up, my basic attituse if (*)(*)(*)(*) Left Wing. (*)(*)(*)(*) Right Wing. (*)(*)(*)(*) all of your mindless political nonsense. If you want to talk military, I can talk military. If you want to talk about why Missile A is better then Missile B, or why Aircraft C can be taken down by Missile C, I can do that all day long. If you want to interject why "Mister XXXXXX YYYYYY said that blah blah blah blah", I really could not give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*). Talk to me about Socialism or Fasciam or Communism, or talk about the US President (ANY US President) in a less then respectfull manner, and I will see you as nothing but a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing political hack and ignore 90% of what you say. Be it President Reagan, President Clinton, President Bush, or President Barack Hussin Obama. I may, or may not like any, none, or all of the Presidents I just listed. But they are all (or were) my Commander in Chief, and I give them all the proper respect their office demands. Why? If you do not get it by bnow, you are absolutely (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hopeless. Because I could not care less about politics!