Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?

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  1. Sappho

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    It is something I have wondered about for decades, but have always been wary of asking, for fear of offending those who love there nation, unconditionally.

    I do not want this thread to be putting the blame on guns, though... As many an American has been known to say, ''Guns don't kill. People do!''

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Switzerland/United-States/Crime#2014

    If I act in fairness and compare two federal republics Switzerland and The United States, It would still happen that the US is by far more violent than the Swiss have ever been even though the Swiss have a strong gun culture!

    So, why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all the ''first world'' nations?
     
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    Drugs.

    The USA has the money and the demand for it, with an entire continents’ worth of supply flooding into it.

    With drugs comes violence both from those destroyed by it and those distributing it. Over time, this has a cascading effect or slippery slope if you will that degrades families, culture, and society.

    The culmination of this degradation we now know as the Democratic Party, a party corrupt from the top to the bottom who specifically champion their Drug-addled, violent masses into attacking law and order itself, from our borders to our police in their efforts to assert complete authoritarian control over what’s left of this country

    My guess is Switzerland’s situation is a tad bit different
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are different theories.

    One of them has to do with levels of diversity.
    The US also has more diversity than any other developed nation.

    I showed in this thread that if you added together different world countries to achieve a similar ethnic mix that exists in the US, the homicide rate of the combined countries would be equal to or greater than the US.

    U.S. homicide rates compared to different countries
     
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    I think the problem lies in racial segregation. High crime areas are always dominated by blacks. The problem is not the race itself, it’s the culture of violence that arises from poverty.
    I think all public housing that houses a lot of people on financial assistance should be destroyed and people resettled in middle class areas and spread out evenly. This would expose the kids who live in poverty to normal families and give them a sense of what is normal and how families should be properly raised. They will also see that ambition and honest work can deliver real results.
     
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    DIVERSITY
     
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    It is often assumed that America is a First World country, but the reality is a little more complex. In many and multiple ways, America is sort of more like a First World country existing side by side in parallel with a Third World country, almost like two different societies simultaneously existing within the same political borders.

    If you look at many Latin American countries, their societies look the same way, sometimes even more so.

    Since America is the wealthiest country out of this bunch, that's why it often looks like an abnormality in the statistics.

    If you combined the statistics of two different countries, like Canada and South Africa, to create a new "hypothetical country", it would look pretty similar.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy#United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy#Switzerland

    Seems to me that The Swiss had issues with drugs also...
     
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    Actually, The US does not rate within the top ten nations that are most diverse...

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-diverse-countries
    Top 10 Most Culturally Diverse Countries in the World - Gören 2013
    1. Chad - 0.8514
    2. Cameroon - 0.8426
    3. Nigeria - 0.8306
    4. Togo - 0.8118
    5. Congo (Dem. Republic of) - 0.8111
    6. Kenya - 0.8091
    7. Guinea-Bissau - 0.7857
    8. Congo (Republic of) - 0.7764
    9. Ivory Coast - 0.7723
    10. Liberia - 0.7694
     
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    When I went for a stroll through Zurich, they were openly selling hard drugs in the local park.
     
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    Didn't Trumpism arise in opposition to this kind of sensible idea?
     
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    No, it arose as a response to anti-white racism. Being against anti-white racism does not mean you are a racist against others. It just means you are against racism.
     
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    A lot of my Virginian Trump supporter friends are complaining bitterly about the imposition of minorities into their pristine white areas.

    A lot of the rioters on Jan 6th were from Democrat majority areas constituencies, where it has been argued that Trump supporters feel pressed upon by minorities.

    I think my point is a decent one. But I agree that your point is a good one as well.
     
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    That looks like our work roster lols!
    The Americans here keep trying to tell me we are “all white” :roll: Nope! If mix’n’match breaks the barriers of racism I say stir in more diversity!!!
     
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    Like most countries in the Western Hemisphere America's base culture is one where toxic masculinity is highly valued
     
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    The answer to the question has to do with the particular ethnic make-up of the White population and its relationship to Black and Indigenous People. Because the Whites used violence against those groups violence became part of American culture and is now the acceptable way to resolve conflicts.
     
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    Its surely a lot of things. But I figure the two primary contributors are rebelliousness and population density.

    Americans tend to not to like being told how to behave. We see such instruction as elitist, and elites are to be resisted because we're individuals and sovereign in our civil rights. But theres a lot (and growing) people here who think they have a right to make decisions for other people, think they know better, and that makes those other people angry.

    We also have some (rather localized) population density issues. The vast bulk of our violent crime comes from a few very small (geographically) areas that have way too many people stacked up on eachother trying to tell eachother what to do and how to live. Some cultures thrive is such conditions, but Americans do not. Canada, for example, is probably the most similar culture to the US. It has 10% the violent crime per capita ...and 10% the population density.
     
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    It also seems quite easy for the mentally challenged to obtain a lot of weapons in the US...

     
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    You seem to have the two main groups covered. I would also say population density plus individualism [and actually "loss of culture" - a universal phenomenon that I don't really understand fully myself]

    You have a lot of Asians stacked on top of each other in some parts of the world but they don't shoot each other.

    There might be genetics as well but I'm not going there :)
     
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    :knifefork: ~ We eat more bacon and drink more coffee ... :coffeemachine::sunnysideup: `:coffeecup:
     
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    Are you suggesting that the man in this video is mentally challenged?
     
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    You think he is NOT???
     
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    Truthfully, I wouldn't give it immediate concern. His sex dolls would surely "assist" to prevent any psychotic tendencies from boiling over.
     
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    It’s been proven many times over when you adjust for demographics, our violence and crime is very similar to other less diverse 1st world nations. The violence is concentrated and follows a common thread no matter where you go.

    Although, current Democrat policy is doing nothing but giving criminals more opportunity.
     
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