Why is there evil in the world? (my thoughts and logic)

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Yes - we're more than ready to see ourselves as being so gosh darn "right" that we're willing to go to WAR!

    That is a serious problem.
     
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    THERE ARE JUST WARS.
     
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    Are you suggesting that all our wars have been "just"?
     
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    RE: Why is there evil in the world? (my thoughts and logic)
    ⁜→ yabberefugee, WillReadmore, et al,

    BLUF: From the perspective of the academician and intellectual, there is simply "no justification for "acts of aggression." Having said that, the academician and intellectual have not guided any nation in any other direction except towards the preparation of war. The entire purpose of the pre-positioned stocks (PPS) is to ensure that vital components necessary to successfully engage in foreign military adventures are in full readiness; along with strategic War Reserve Stocks for our Allies.

    (NECESSARY AWARENESS)

    In the ≈ 240 years since the founding of America, the nation has been at peace for less than two decades. By peace, I mean those times when the US was NOT involved in the Civil War or other Armed Conflict (both International and non-Internation) as defined under the Geneva Convention.

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    What most Americans never noticed.​
    What America uses for "justification for war," (in the real world - outside the realm of the academic and intellectuals) is somewhat different from what other countries use. By the time the US withdraws from Afghanistan, US Forces will have spent more time in that conflict than all the years the US has experienced peace since 1776.

    America does not look at war the same way as the rest of the world. Justification doesn't enter into the decision to enter the fright. It is a matter of: What is in America's best interest?

    We may paint the pig with lipstick and makeup, put a miniskirt, and wig on it. BUT, underneath it all, it is still a pig.

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    Absolutely. "America's interest" has really been the only justification we've actually used.

    One might try to claim our contribution to the NATO war in the Balkans, but that was a joint effort, didn't involve the occupations of most wars and had no objective that was specificaly to America's advantage.

    In fact, on the basis of the lack of significant advantage to America there was serious objection against our contribution voiced by right wing American congressmen - though they pretty much turned around after it was clear we would be involved.

    I don't believe the importance of multinational decision making can be overemphasized. The UN even almost saved us from the worst foreign policy blunder in US history - the conquest of Iraq.
     
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    that was not my intent.
     
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    There was a time according to Genesis when man didn't know the difference between good and evil. And the allegorical tree of knowledge of good and evil was placed in Eden where Adam and eve lived.

    Now god told the two kids they could eat any fruit in eden except for the fruit of two trees with the tree of knowledge being one of them. And if they ate of them they would die. So apparently good and evil existed yet neither kid knew what was good and evil. Until they ate the forbidden fruit.

    When very young and being raised a Christian it occurred to me you can't have up without down , left without right nor good without evil. As soon as god created good evil came into existence out of necessity. .To recognize what is good implies there is a not good, or evil.

    There is this idea that life and existence on earth is a school. And via reincarnation we attend school until we become good and no longer do evil. And that is the purpose of life, consciousness and reincarnation. So good and evil are necessary.

    Once you graduate, reincarnation for you ceases, and now being Good you are fit to join god in his abode .

    And that is why god created good and evil.

    This keeps him from being bored.
     
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    Yeah America is no better than the Third Reich.
     
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    I'm willing to accept that some people might be reincarnated in some cases, but that does not necessarily mean all or even most people will be.

    I'm not sure about that. I do not know what the world would look like if "good" remained but there was no evil.

    It is said that "evil is the absence of God", so maybe one could extend that and say "evil is the absence of good".

    A moral philosopher/theologian could assume that evil does have to exist now for the greater good. Which of course could raise some inherent questions on the nature of existence and the nature of God, why he is not able to somehow bypass the bad and just create the good. A question that I feel could have a logical answer we could speculate on, but is a very deep philosophical and intellectual issue.

    One philosophical answer (theory) might be that "apart from God there is no pure good", and so individual beings have the choice of whether they choose to be (or act) apart from God. Thus the concept of evil derives out of the very nature of existence, and is a requisite of the nature of individuality.
    So it could be said that, perhaps on some level, the existence of evil is a result of God's desire to create individual beings apart from himself, that there was no other way, and the two were inextricably intertwined.
     
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    https://www.gotquestions.org/tree-knowledge-good-evil.html
     
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    https://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html

    https://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-evil.html

     
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