Why is there no 'dislike' button?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member

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    That's it. I wanna know why.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe if you donated the money to pay for the software change they'd do it. Just sayin'

    We're all freeloaders here. Democrats expect things for 'free' using other people's money, but seeing "modern conservatives" whining about the quality of "free stuff" is amusing. :)
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member

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    Why would you presume I'm whining?

    Also, how do I send a message to the mods (to find out how much a dislike button costs)
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not. Does the shoe fit?

    This is a start: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?account/upgrades

    Another is to just report me (or yourself) and ask.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    You can PM us if you like.

    I don't run the site I just work here but I believe the reason there is no dislike button is because that would just create too many headaches with people trolling each other all day. If a member doesn't like another member then what's to stop them from just running around disliking every post the other member makes for the hell of it.

    If we installed a dislike button then I 100% guarantee you that we'd be getting reports that "Member X is harassing me and disliking everything I post just because they can" within about 10 minutes of us putting that thing on here lol.
     
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    If there was a dislike, people would definitely abuse it.
     
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    RE:
    Why is there no 'dislike' button?
    Because it would risk burning out the internet.
     
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    Some of us aren't.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There used to be, perhaps 10 years ago. Didn't work out well.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, but the "past donor" mark says you're just one of us schmucks. :p

    Thank you for the past donation. I hope to win a contribution when Brett is confirmed. :D
     
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    How do you 'abuse' a dislike button?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same way they abuse the "report" button; by dogpiling. It's a common ploy by political partisan assclowns on both sides.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    This....

    In case folks were wondering about how your reports are handled or may be wondering why "the Mods aren't doing anything" and/or "You guys suck at your job" (yeah we read the comments posted on the reports lol). Well....

    We woke up yesterday with over 100 reports in the que, the day before that there was like 5....and we still aren't caught back up yet...

    Yeah members do tend to REALLY utilize that report button sometimes....Especially when high profile political topics are going on like this Kavanaugh thing.

    It's really not that uncommon for us to log on here and see like 50 reports in the cue then take a look and realize that like half of them are from one or two people lol It's like seriously? We read the post history you've never even posted in Latest US & World History before what are you doing reporting like 20 things from there lol?

    It does get abused sometimes....
     
  14. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Woot! Did you read mine? :D

    Thanks. Seriously. I've done thankless jobs like yours for the same pay: Nada. You're doing a job I wouldn't do, so, again, thank you. I know I'm among the problem children, but I truly do try to keep it to a minimum. :)
     
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    But you can't get in trouble for dislikes. Theres no consequence. Its purely for reference.
     
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    You mods have a tendency to favor right wingers far too often. Righties post insults and when a patriot replies you delete the replies but not the instigation. Allowing dislikes would allow righties to post their hate without any chance of rebuttal. Don't get mad at me for posting the truth.
     
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    True, but you don't see the problem of dogpiling? Making someone look bad simply because they disagree with the "in crowd"?
     
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    The right wingers have the same complaint.

    Here's the real problem: There are more RWers than LWers in America. Even our LWers are RWers compared to Eurotrash Europeans.

    As long as the RWNJs (and the LWLs for that matter) follow the rules, what do you propose should be done? Censorship? Or let the cards fall where they may?
     
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    You can get in trouble if you decide to just run around the forum spamming the dislike button on every members' posts that you may not particularly like.

    Which is a problem we already currently have to deal with as a double edged sword of our report function. We encourage members to report rule violations to the Mods so that we may handle it because there's a lot of posts here daily and only a few of us and we obviously cannot see everything.

    However, that is also a double edged sword because some members do try to weaponize the Mods by running around the forum and just reporting every little thing they can find that another member posts because they don't particularly like that person.

    Point is, a dislike button is one of those things that has the potential to just be flat out abused by people. And it will undoubtedly be abused. This is a political forum, things get heated here. As I said we'd start getting reports of people running around disliking everyones posts within like a day of that thing being installed here.

    Plus it would just open up a new can of worms with some conversations undoubtedly turning in to "You have the most dislikes in this entire thread, that obviously means you are an idiot", or something like that which just adds a whole new medium by which members can insult each other...

    As I said I'm by no means the overall approving authority around here. I'm just a Mod. But in order to implement something like that we Staff have to vote on it and I personally wouldn't vote in favor of it because I believe it would be a terrible idea for the reasons mentioned.
     
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    Not so.

    The majority of Americans are patriots, not right wingers. Just look at the voting numbers.

    Patriots complain more often about censorship because we are the victims of board prejudices far more often. So it is best to keep the board free of dislikes as it will lead to more troubles here.
     
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    The voting numbers are split. The largest group of voters aren't Democrats nor Republicans, they are Independents. Why? My guess is that they think neither party represents them.
     
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    Here is how it works for the most part.

    A post is reported to us, we have the ability to click on the report which takes us directly to that post where the rule violation supposedly occurred. We take a look at it, make judgement, and take action. We do try to browse around the thread to see what may have led to that post but you have to understand what we are working with here. There are A LOT of posts here per day, upwards of like 3,000. There are like 5 Mods who log on to here at various times throughout the day and/or week.

    Many of these threads are huge with multiple pages. It takes a lot of time for us to back track through all of these posts to see what happened. Then once we delete the violating post we also have to go through the thread and delete any responses to that violating post. Then figure out what may have caused the violating post in the first place. Not too bad with a 1 or 2 page thread. Pretty long process with a 40 page thread.

    All the while we are in one thread trying to delete things and clean it up our reported que keeps on ticking along by the minute with members continuously reporting things. Then we get done with that thread and move on to the next reported post. Take a look at that one, damnit....10 page thread, have to clean this whole thing up too. Spend sometimes upwards of an hour or so in this thread to clean it up all because of one post. Then it's time for real life duties such as work, so we log off and go about our real lives. Then we log back on again and the reported cue is full of posts saying "I guess you Mods think it's ok to let Liberals insult people without consequence seeing how I reported this twice already and you still haven't done anything!"

    Then we get a report about somebody trolling somebody. "Member X is following me around the whole forum harassing me". So we have to investigate that and follow said members post history around to see if that claim has any validity. That takes time. Meanwhile more reports are coming through.

    We do our best....and no we aren't on anyone's "side" in spite of what it may seem like.

    I've been a Staff member here for years and throughout my time here this place has been called everything from Michael Moore's secret forum to Stormfront.

    There is simply A LOT of work that gets done here behind the scenes and not a lot of people to actually do it. So it may sometimes seem as though we are ignoring things or letting things slide but I assure you that is not our intent. The reason why the Mod staff is so small is because the vetting process to become a member of the Staff is very thorough and it's often difficult, on a political forum, to find folks who can truly be unbiased in their judgement. The Mods that are here are members to have been through a very thorough vetting process that which members fail more often than not.

    There is no bias here. I believe it is merely a misunderstanding.
     
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    I can send you copies of my PMs to mods and the admin to prove my point.
     
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    It is true that Indies are the plurality (myself among them). However, Democrats outnumber Republicans.
     
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    What's so terrible about someone over-using a dislike button if theres no associated consequences?
     

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