Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

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  1. AFM

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    And as been pointed out multiple times aerosol particles from normal breathing go right through surgical and cloth masks.
     
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    And as been pointed out... people cough and sneeze and shout and sing even when they aren’t suffering symptoms.

    And if they are infected and don’t know it, without a mask they endanger everyone they encounter and everything they touch becomes a threat as well
     
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    By the way... you never responded to this
     
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    Masks do nothing to protect or limit the spread. Wear a mask if you will but behave as if you were not wearing one.
     
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    But they do use surgical masks.
    Did you look at the chart?
    I tried to help you by outlining it in red.
     
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    That's where the science comes in. You know the part you can't seem to grasp.
     
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    Doesnt matter if your study shows filtration down to .001pm since its impossible to get a good seal and it all bows out around the sides no different than no mask at all.



    then there is the reality:
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    You need these:

    These (below) will do the job perfectly with the correct filters, no social distancing or public lockdowns required:

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    Show the science that demonstrates reduced incidence of disease.
    Bet you can't
     
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    these would do a good job, however then you have to sanitize the exposed parts after every use

    without a good seal around the face filtration effectiveness offers little to zero protection.

    as far as I know no qualified control study exists, I bet he cant either!

    our cwazy world today falsely presume some jokers hypothetical model is a great substitute for actual tests.
     
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    Additionally, the masks being worn in society are cloth and cheep medical masks. Zero effectiveness
     
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    I’m aware of one study concluded that as far as we know was designed to determine if masks do decrease incidence of disease. Nobody will print it because it’s “controversial”.
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04337541

    Hopefully someone will step up and print it so we can examine it fully and learn from it.
     
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    It's not all that complicated if you give it some rational thought.
    Anything that lowers your exposure to the virus improves your chances of avoiding the infection.
    If that weren't true we would all have it by now.
     
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    I agree that defunding police, eliminating boarders, wealth redistribution, court packing, adding new states, and everything are is "childish BS" but these are the primary goals of the Marxist driven progressive left. Surely you're not denying any of that.
     
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    Well unfortunately that's why Democrats should be in charge right now. Because attitudes like that necessitate such a law, and only a Democrat would enact such a law. And if it turns out that enough independents agree we'll get a proper COVID mitigation strategy but we'll also get the radical Marxist agenda that comes with it. Republicans are on the verge of trading away the country over this issue. How will you feel if that happens?
     
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    And surgical masks do not stop aerosols.
     
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    Sure they do.
     
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    Attitudes like mine follow the science. I maintain social distancing equally for both those wearing and not wearing a mask because I know that masks do not protect me.
     
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    They absolutely do not. That is why surgeons with viral infections do not operate.
     
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    Dayum, and here I thought scientific data was rational thought?
    Why are you objecting to proof?
    False, your exposure is not lowered.
    Its merely delayed
    Once a virus is in the public on the scale this virus is in the public you cant hide from it, it will get you if not today tomorrow.
    Now thats not only rational thought, but a 'fact'.
    No one in the civilized world can hide from it.
    The whole purpose is merely to prevent the spread to levels the hospitals can handle without having to turn people away due to lack of beds.
    So you dont give a damn that those kinds of laws are completely unconstitutional and wont stop you from getting it anyway, but at least we will have another unconstitutional set of laws on the books.
    YOu wont as I just explaned, the most you get is a delay, unless you think you can pull off a howard hughes and lock yourself into your own little sanitary prison.
     
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    That's the same reason you should quarantine when you get the Covid.
     
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    Are seat-belt laws unconstitutional?
     
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    So it would be easy to show the actual science that demonstrates this.
    I mean its just "rational thought" after all.
    I'll wait patiently for you to present it.
     
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    *pseudo-science.
     
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    Because the answer is obvious.

    Vaccine. Much safer. :)
     
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    Bet i know why

    He's struggling "incidence of disease"
     
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