Why there is no men rights folder?

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  1. hermilion

    hermilion Newly Registered

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    Are men not equal to women and do not deserve their rights?
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The history of "women right" come from the past when women were not accepted in universities, didn't had the right to vote or were considered in some countries as minor.

    Feminism btw nowodays became a big joke. Some women want to be praised as women, when the only thing we should praise, either in a man or a woman is not their testicles or ovaries, it's their deeds. Only the deeds matters.
     
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    Agreed. So why do we have an International Women's Day, Black History Month, and Hispanic Heritage Month, but no European/White/Men holiday?
     
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    There is an international men's day, from memory without looking it up I think it is November 29th.
     
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    Because the days not named belong to white males.
    Women and blacks were regarded as property, couldn't vote. White males had no such oppression.
     
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    I agree that that is a bad thing. However, it's not the thing that I was talking about.
     
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    Yes, that is also a thing that happened - about 100 years, and 150 years ago, respectively. None of us, or even most of our grandparents, were alive at the time.

    Currently, we have some battling over a single reproductive issue - abortion, and some slight disparity in career potential, mainly due to traditional family roles. I think we can let that particular torch down now.
     
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    Because there is no true equality and international womens day has done a lot through the years to empower women in third world countries

    I do not know about black history month but we could bloody do with something similar here. Our history was hidden - for years. Only now with the internet are we finding the truth

    Whatever you do do NOT google "massacres Australia' on the wiki page - first time I read it I threw up. Whole tribes wiped out to the last baby
     
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    I believe women are still paid less for the same work as a male.
    Discrimination against Blacks has not gone away.
    Blacks couldn't vote in the much more recent past (Jim Crow) and attempts are ongoing to introduce new voting restrictions.
    I am a white male - I do not feel threatened. I am also heterosexual and don't feel threatened by homosexuals, either.
     
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    What do you mean?

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    Hmm... no mention of women here.

    How many women voted for George Washington on the first election day? Oh wait, they didn't have the right to vote.

    Yeah, pretty much every "right" in the Constitution when it was written were men's rights.
     
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    I'm not threatened by it whatsoever, just annoyed. I'm tired of the pandering.
     
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    Men are institutionally oppressed, and only seek the most basic right - equal treatment under the law. This would include an end to men receiving longer prison sentences than women for the same crimes. Also men should receive equal treatment in divorce court. Life "on the street" is not fair and never will be. But we have the right to expect fairness in courts of law.
     
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    The fact that "alimony" still exists is absolutely amazing to me. And good luck getting any sort of child support or sole custody as a male.
     
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    The trouble with doing away with alimony would be that some men would not accept the responsibility of helping to bring up their children and leave women and children in a position of living in poverty and relying on the compassion of the state (tax payers) for support.
    While you may just be talking about ex-wives with no children sponging off their former husbands where I could agree with you there is no good reason to make children the victims of broken relationships.
     
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    That's why alimony and child support are two separate things. A man owes his children support, but not his ex-wife.
     
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    Ok, thanks I was unsure they were separate issues.
     
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    We're not paid less for the same work, no. It's an earnings gap, not a wage gap.

    How does this answer the question?

    The existence of something that you consider to be a women's rights issue does not negate the existence of male's right issues.
     
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    If you are not feeling threatened, that is because you haven't been threatened. That's great for you, but it is a folly of human nature to extrapolate personal experience to general practice.

    The fact of the matter is that an abusive female in today's world can utilise instruments of the state to destroy you and your children and you have virtually no defence against that .

    It must be a helluva lot worse for black males
     
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    Sorry you have to sleep with a light on.
     
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    :) Physical threats I can handle.

    If you could deal with this kind of stuff with physical solutions there wouldn't be a problem.
     
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    No-one is equal, most of us will share common traits to different degrees, but none of us are equal, and thus I don't see why we should, therefore, have to treat people the same as opposed to praising each person's/gender's/race's qualities. Not in a special snowflake kind of way, but a "hey you're better at this than that person, so you do that and the other person can do something else" - which is essentially the basis of meritocracy.
     
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    Alimony makes sense in certain cases. For example, let's say a couple gets married in college. One of the pair goes to work right after graduation, the other to medical or law school. The one that goes to work ends up making a salary that supports both of them, giving the med/law school spouse a chance to get a better job. Ten years later they get divorced. Shouldn't the work after college spouse be entitled to some of the money from the doctor/lawyer spouse? Note, gender doesn't matter here--I don't care if it's the husband or the wife that works right after college, or if its the husband or the wife that gets the professional degree.
     
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    Short answer, no. That's between the couple to work out.

    I don't need government-mandated benefits, to make life fair.
     
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