Why we support President Trump

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We support President Trump for one simple reason. President Trump stands between us and those who would impose their very best intentions for us upon us by force of law. We have decided, to a voter, that we would rather put up with President Trump's imperfections that have the perfections of government busy bodies imposed upon us by force of law.

    No matter what the authoritarians think of of President Trump, even if it's true, we think less of them. We are not at all ignorant of our president's immoralities, nor are we ignorant of theirs. We've made our choice. There is no amount of mud that they can fling that will change our minds. Meanwhile, voters are being persuaded to leave the democrat party in droves.

    President Trump has not lost one vote since 2016, but he has gained many millions, including mine. I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016, but I'd stand in line all night to vote for him tomorrow.

    We support President Trump because he stands between us and that behemoth in Washington DC.
     
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    The response and activity of those people who were crushed by the election of Donald Trump is all any rational person needs to see to confirm the basic message you have written.

    When has there been a time in modern history when people have been encouraged to intimidate and attempt to destroy anyone who doesn't agree and conform? Across multiple issues, from climate to food, education or even profession, the New Democratic Party, and it's partners in the MSM, have made it clear people must conform, or else.

    President Trump, as unpredictable and raw as he is, is exactly the right person at the right time. He has pushed the forces behind the creation of the New Democratic Party to the surface. As a result, people can see for themselves who and what they are, and what the end game for them is.

    Exposing that objective, and doing something to stop it, is worth every moment Donald Trump is in office.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump is a "tragic-hero" as Victor Davis Hanson describes a "tragic-hero".
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean the way Don viciously attacks anyone critical of him? Inspiring the cult to do likewise.
     
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    "When has there been a time in modern history when people have been encouraged to intimidate and attempt to destroy anyone who doesn't agree and conform?"

    It has happened several times in American history.

    Some might list the Civil War...but that would destroy the false right wing narrative that slavery wasn't an issue in that war.

    The other two times involve right wing reactionaries grabbing the bully pulpit just long enough to conduct political witchunts and persecutions.

    The Palmer raids of the early 1920's, and the red scare that followed WWII.

    But, like Trumpism, were the product of demogogues who attracted a wide following of right wing reactionaries and xenphobes.

    Which is what is happening now.

    Only this time, the domogogue is President.
     
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    Reap what you sow.

    The left sends it's troops out to destroy anyone who doesn't toe the line. That's not open to dispute.

    So, I don't have a problem with Trump viciously returning the favor.

    If you need to escape to your safe space because of it, go for it.
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Those twitter-storms are just brutal huh? After the Kavanaugh inquisitions (D)'s still think they hold the high ground on civility? That's rich.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is 'but what about' your only argument? You're not going to persuade anyone with that.
     
  9. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think most rational people would not consider the period of the Civil War to be included in a reference to "modern history". However, I suppose that definition is open to personal definition.

    Your projection is noted.
     
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    Yes, the civil war, where poor farmers were used as actual canon fodder, by rich industrialist in the north, and the rich plantation aristocracy in the south. Got anymore examples of human carnage you care to use as a talking point?
     
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    You get off on the hate he spews. ;)
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Project whatever you will, but you will make absolutely no attempt to persuade anyone ever.
    You just don't have it in you, none of you do.
     
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    1. The Federal Communications Commission or Federal Election Commission should investigate whether "Saturday Night Live" and late-night talk shows are in collusion with Democrats and/or Russia because they attack him so consistently.
    2. Attacked late Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, for allegedly sending the FBI the Steele dossier before the election -- and working with Democrats to do so. (Also, Trump called McCain -- who, it's worth noting, is dead -- "last in his class" at the US Naval Academy.)
    3. Urged Fox News Channel to reinstate host Jeanine Pirro after she was suspended for questioning the patriotism of Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, who is Muslim.
    4. Urged FNC to stand up for host Tucker Carlson, who has seen some advertisers pull out of his show following the release of a series of caustic and offensive remarks he made on a radio show between 2006 and 2011.
    5. Accused General Motors of having "let our country down" in the wake of the news that the company was relocating four American factories.
    6. Attacked FNC anchor Shep Smith and two other weekend anchors at Fox, alleging they had "been trained by CNN prior to their ratings collapse."
    7. Alleged that Democrats tried to "steal a presidential election," calling it "the biggest scandal in the history of our country."
    8. Retweeted Jack Posobiec, who among other things, is a leading promoter of the Pizzagate and Seth Rich conspiracy theories.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/politics/donald-trump-twitter-sunday/index.html

    Is the best use of a prez's time spent sending out 50 tweets of various levels of delusion and hysteria in two days?
     
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    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    I support Trump because I agree with his positions on all subjects. I support Trump for his programs he has installed. I support Trump for the programs he wants to install. I look forward to voting for him again.
     
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    As one of the primary attackers- who are you to that anyone should listen to you?
    The people you support advocate seeking out supporters of opposition in private activities like a family meal in a restaurant, and telling them they are not welcome anywhere.
    The left and democrats rapidly becoming leftists think it is a great offense to them for anyone to criticize their being abusive and offensive to others. They fabricate reasons to complain, actually utilize the kind of tactics they complain of as their primary strategy- or just plain lack of ability to act maturely- and are role models no rational, mature person wants to be like.

    That is about as arrogant and obnoxious an attitude as it is possible to have politically, short of using physical violence- and of course IS subtly promoting physical violence.

    I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours that wasn't an attack on someone, usually starting with slanderous abuse to dehumanize the target (invariably Trump) in order to justify the attack that follows.

    WHY should anyone listen to you, care what you think, or in any way be influenced by that garbage?
    The truth is that such behavior is offensive and exposes the left for what it is.
     
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    End the Drug War now.
     
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    When the common Joe gets his tax increase from the GOP they will not be so willing to vote for the Repubs...
     
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    Really? Which ones are anarchist and which ones are the communist in power, or did you forget about the Democrats which are centrist?
     
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    And have you ever thought that 'you' maybe reacting just as Trump wants? Playing those emotional attachments like a puppet string to make you jump?

    Instead of knee-jerking, try analyzing why he sends those bizarre tweets.....
     
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    What tax increase? Bottom line, my tax liability is less this year than previous years.

    Just because some people can't do math to see a comparison between years, does not mean they are paying more.
     
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    It's incredible that the lefties can say things like that, when all the people who are theoretically "hated" are doing better than ever with the Trump administration- and the vast bulk of what might be called hate is a direct product of the left and democratic leadership. They seem to think that if you repeat that crap enough times, everybody will believe it. Some will of course, but some of us will always be blind sheep.
    I applaud Trump for calling out the things he does- which need to be called out, and for kicking back when he is kicked unfairly. We haven't had a president with the guts to do that since Harry Truman.

    The left wants to be free to use fabricated character assassination at will, with out fear of consequence- and certainly we see them attempting to bludgeon all who resist it. I think they assume that is they could get away with it on the president, they could get away with it everywhere.

    These are flags of of bad faith, of very bad character; of hidden agendas, of deception and malice- NONE of which should be tolerated.
     
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    The only people the above tactics sway are those who are already in that mood. The above tactics give the ineffective something to blame their ineffectiveness on. The tactics that you cite above can only ever build a coalition of the aggrieved. The problem with that is that when the mood passes, their support vanishes.
     
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    Darn that Freedom of Speech. Doesnt he know that doesnt apply to him?
     
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    You would like to imply communists in power- but of course, you know that is just more political slander.

    Which ones are "anarchists"? None that I consider conservatives or people in the same camp as Trump qualify as anarchists in any way, and I see that kind of conduct from fringe elements that identify themselves as associated with parties. While the fringes are of some concern, the mainstream concern is an imminent threat. I don't see republican congress members behaving like Waters, telling people to run others out of public places, and there are a great many democrats currently doing such offensive things- which are indeed advocating anarchy.

    Centrist democrats?? Whomever might fit that label seems to be in hiding, afraid to confront the extremists in their own party. IF there are any left in power, I encourage them to step forward and demonstrate they exist. In terms of the general public democrats, we have the same thing. This social bully attitude of intimidation from the aggressive liberals running as democrats is not something that should be tolerated by anyone- and they are hi-jacking the democratic party rather to use it as a vehicle for what will primarily be socialism evolving to dictatorship by one "closed party". I would appreciate hearing from grounded, realistic democrats. We need them back in center stage instead of cowering. They might have different views and opinions- but at least are rational and balanced.
     
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    I agree; my concern is how much damage such attitudes can do if they become widespread. I believe the character and strength of our people today is declining- they expect more entitlements, think a good life should be free. They like to feel victimized, and they think government should solve their problems and provide for them, and that "someone else" will pay the bills. People who think like that are ripe for socialistic promises- they have no concept of the consequences 10-20 years later; it's all what I can get right now.... and sadly, most will settle for promises that wise people know can never be true. That represents a great danger; it is a path we must not go down at all- because it promotes weakness and reversing it once it gets in place might be impossible- and the inevitable outcome would be disaster. Anyone buying into that or promoting that threatens the nation and every citizen, including themselves.
     

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