Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

I am not saying drugs don't come through ports of entry as we obviously have arrest to document what does come through. What I am saying is the statistics being used in these political forums are not accurate. This idea of a wall not stopping most drug trafficking is false. The problem is you are getting resourced information meaning you are not provided all of the data. Just what some want you to know. All you would need to know is listed in our border history during the cocaine wars of the late 70s and early 80s. Planes, boats, submarines, balloons, tunnels, horses, and the list goes on. If running across a port of entry was so lucrative, why would you do anything else?

 

And why would a manager who is not directly involved in intelligence collection have access to classified information? Are you ************ or committing a felony? Which one is it?

 

A 24-page report prepared by the DEA in May found that drugs coming from Mexico do often enter through the southwestern border, but they do so concealed in vehicles, like tractor-trailers. Moreover, drugs coming from Colombia are more often transported by plane and boat, the reports notes.
Transnational criminal organizations “generally route larger drug shipments destined for the Northeast through the Bahamas and/or South Florida by using a variety of maritime conveyance methods, to include speedboats, fishing vessels, sailboats, yachts, and containerized sea cargo,” the reports reads. “In some cases, Dominican Republic-based traffickers will also transport cocaine into Haiti for subsequent shipment to the United States via the Bahamas and/or South Florida corridor using maritime and air transport.”
The DEA report does not address the wall but details how drugs enter the country, and many of the examples illustrate that it is not through land routes. “According to DEA reporting, the majority of the heroin available in New Jersey originates in Colombia and is primarily smuggled into the United States by Colombian and Dominican groups via human couriers on commercial flights to the Newark International Airport,” the document states.
The report, which focuses heavily on the growth of Dominican trafficking groups, outlines a variety of ways drugs enter the United States, including via couriers carrying cocaine-filled suitcases on commercial flights — sometimes with the help of airline employees — or via mail.
The drugs are often transported by boat from the Bahamas or Venezuela up through Miami. The main hubs for transport include the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.
“Due to Puerto Rico’s proximity and status as a U.S. territory, Dominican Republic-based traffickers commonly direct drug shipments to Puerto Rico, where they are partitioned into small units and sent directly to the Northeast, mainly through the U.S. postal system, parcel mail service, and couriers on commercial flights,” the report states.

At the end of the intelligence report, the DEA makes a recommendation, but it doesn’t involve building a wall.

“As key distributors of heroin, controlled prescription pills, and fentanyl—in their various forms—Dominican traffickers play a critical role in fomenting the national opioid epidemic, specifically in the Northeast,” it states.

The report adds that “successful targeting of their networks by U.S. law enforcement would be an essential component to any broad strategy for resolving the current opioid crisis.”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/2...top-drugs-heres-what-a-dea-intel-report-says/

 

What classified information are you talking about? I gave you to link to what we do so. Its public information. so either all of DHS, Condor Aerial, Arizona Border Recon and Border Security officers are all committing felonies or you just don't know what you are talking about.

What classified information are you talking about. I never mentioned anything about classified information. You just made it up.

 

So you are not gathering intelligence? Because the DHS classifies its intelligence collection in order to protect ways and means, which you would know if you've ever actually worked with intelligence gathering for the US government.

Maybe next time do research before you start claiming bullshit?

 

Oh, Now I get it. You think the phrase gathering Intelligence means its classified information. lol Why don't you read our website.

Our mission is to provide intelligence to the public in matters relating to the trafficking activities originating from the international border in Arizona.

We believe in absolute transparency in who we are, and what we do. That includes how we do things. To maintain that transparency, we publish our Standard Operating Procedures and Rules of Engagement for all to review and see. All personnel are required to maintain a current version, as well as sign documents and have them notarized showing their understanding of them and willingness to comply.

Standard Operating Procedures

Rules of Engagement

Our cadre are well versed in the laws applicable to our operations. We maintain our respect for the rule of law, and as mentioned previously, we are not here to replace enforcers. We have, and will continue to operate within the bounds of the law, and expect all personnel participating with us to do the same. There are no exceptions to our standards.

We value human life, and to that extent we will do what we can to help anyone we encounter. Any individuals we come across are treated humanely: food, water, and medical aid are given.

 

So you give intel to DHS but don't actually get any information back? So how can you claim to know anything from DHS?

 

I never stated we get any information from DHS. You did. I stated WE PROVIDE INTEL TO DHS. The only reason they rely upon us to provide such information is because our information is more accurate, up to date, and reliable because we have people in the field tracking drug mules, crossings, and resources in the area like water storage, weapons, and trails. They don't.

Thats how we know what is really going on at these borders. We don't get our information from political websites CNN, or Chuck Schumer.

 

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Why oppose the wall? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ROOT PROBLEM. Its a band aid. The drug angle is a distraction. The terrorist angle is a distraction.

The issue is illegal immigration. Take away the reason most of them come, they will stop coming. Hold employers criminally responsible. Hold organizations that solicit and sponsor groups to come to the border criminally responsible. Let those who seek asylum make their case in their country of origination. Make them understand that "my life sucks and i want to move in with you" is not a valid reason for asylum. Get a handle on those who have expired visa's. Take away the need for our border patrol to be social workers they can do a better job of stopping those who would do us real harm.

THE WALL is a distraction that both sides of the political spectrum use to exploit and hide the fact that none of them have the guts to deal with the problem.

 

So yeah, We just put together our website because you posted something on this forum. Maybe next time you should do a little more research or actually click on a link before claiming bullshit.

 

IF YOU DON'T GET ANY INTEL FROM DHS THEN HOW CAN YOU CLAIM TO KNOW HOW MUCH DRUGS CROSS THE BORDER?

Do you monitor the entire border including legal entry points? No, you already said you didn't.

 

How exactly does you linking to website prove its your website?

 

Where is the DEA quote? Why don't Democrats seek stronger ports of entry? Folks, ports of entry require humans to man the ports. And ports are open 24 hours. Takes 3 men to cover 8 hours. Takes more men to cover sick call ins and vacation time and family time, etc.

If you want to harden the ports, it will cost a lot. Will Democrats agree to that?

 

I remind you that border crossings are the wall.

 

Can you supply DEA figures to show what you mean?

 

All I can tell you is what we know in the areas we work and that the information provided through media and DEA isn't accurate. Yes, we have much more arrest through ports of entry because we have agents catching traffickers. You have to ask yourself how could you equate that to most drugs coming through ports of entry?

And how can you equate that to traffickers coming through unsecured locations. If you ask ANY border Patrol agent they will tell you the very same thing. They need barriers. Also you never hear anything from DEA about the influx of illegals coming across the border but since they catch most of them through ports of entry they say most illegal immigration comes through ports of entry.

How can that be true when we have over 1700 a day crossing our borders? We see whats really going on down there and it isn't what you are hearing through media or DEA reports. All I am saying is don't fall for this idea of 90% of our drugs and illegals are coming through ports of entry cuz it just ain't so.

 

See post 53 in this thread.

 

Drugs, gangs, sexual abuse of women, unskilled and dependent strains on infrastructure and the taxpayer aside, that 60,000 unescorted children come across the Border every year is reason enough to build a Wall towards deterring as much of that as possible. That's flat out child abuse on a world-historical scale. Unlike many responsibilities in the world that get shuffled off onto the U.S. and end up costing U.S. lives and far more money than the Wall, this problem is a relatively cheap no-brainer to address.

If the Wall and serious penalties for damaging federal property deterred or prevented only half of unescorted children entering or more importantly trying to enter, crossing a dangerous, inhospitable DESERT via coyote, activists, whatever, then the Wall would be more than worth it.

 

I love your tongue in cheek.

 

If you know that....then why don't you stop it?