Why you can't have an honest or civil conversation with most racists

To each his own, I guess.

 

Fair enough.

I didn't even know what I was missing until I went to Asia. In the West, you have to work pretty hard to date the 7+ girls, but in Asia they just instantly like you. It has to do with their really low rates of obesity and the higher status of western males. Put those two together and it should be rpetty obvious why a guy might want to live in Asia.

Who in their right mind would want to work harder to get less?

 

I've had many debates on here. What do you think were their best arguments?

Very well. I will respond to your post here.

Differences in heritable biological characteristics are of course genetically determined. However human biological variation is not structured in to races (Templeton, 2013). We are one species descended from a single evolutionary lineage (with minimal interbreeding with archaic humans) and our evolutionary history indicates that we should have more commonalities than differences. While humans are indeed a part of nature and subject to natural selection the selective forces that caused us to be different in morphological traits did not have an impact on our cognitive ability which evolved long before humans left Africa, where they became anatomically and behaviorally modern (MacEachern, 2006). Human intelligence has equal survival value therefore it differs from traits that have adaptive importance in different regions such as skin color and skeletal morphology. The archeological record indicates that human survival strategies were fairly uniform throughout the world during the Pleistocene Epoch and cognitive ability does not vary clinally (Brace, 1999). In light of this evidence evolutionary just-so stories such as those of Henry Harpending and J Philippe Rushton need not be considered (Graves, 2002).

As far as East Asians and their supposedly superior IQ to Whites it is only East Asian countries such as China, Korea and Japan with the high IQs. The Southeast Asian countries generally have much lower IQs than Northeast Asians and the Asian-American counterparts of Northeast Asians come from much wealthier families on average especially in recent generations. Despite historical and present discrimination these Northeast Asians descend from a stable culture that values high educational attainment. Ashkenazi Jews also descend from a stable culture that values high academic achievement. Advanced civilization developed in different regions many of which (ex. Italy, Greece, Egypt and Iraq) are not world leaders today. There are plausible explanations for patterns in geographical differences in cultural development but the fact that human accomplishment does not fit a racial matrix indicates that there is more to developing and sustaining civilization than the average intelligence of the population.

If you haven't already I highly recommend watching this debate between Rushton and Suzuki and reading some of the sources, at the end of the video, that I compiled to construct my arguments several of which I linked to here:

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This just goes to show the disparity in our education system. Lower income Whites still attend quality schools where they have better access to SAT prep resources than high income Blacks especially those that live in Urban areas. Nonetheless research does show that increased environmental quality of Blacks reduces the IQ gap.

I will take a look at it.

 

SAYS you. The term changes it meaning to suit anti whites all the time.

Thats just (*)(*)(*)(*) use of statisitics and you know it. You pretend to have a college degree in a science and yet dont know how statistics work.

Nonsense

research doesnt say that / Activists who major is 'black studies' say that

Well thats tough for them then because everytime I see a black person I wonder. Perhaps those who didnt should advertise it

SO you say but you prove you don;t understand statistics

no, you have proven you don;t understand statistics

Online tests are nonsense

 

The irony of a White Supremacist calling a person anti-White is that people like you hate other White people who don't share your political ideology. Be honest. How do you feel about White Liberals? How do you feel about White women who date and marry Black men? If anyone is anti-White it is you.

I never told you what my major was. What's wrong? You don't like statistical facts? I get the impression that statistics are only relevant to you when it suits your racist agenda. How is pointing out that White women represent the majority demographic so there are more of them to rape a misuse of statistics? Or that most men who rape White women are actually White? Those are just facts not bogus statistics.

Do you want to see the statistics?



According to the U.S. Department of Justice in 2005 the number of White victims of rape was 111,940. Of that number 44.5% of the offenders were reported to be White and 33.6% were reported to be Black. Whites makes up about 70% of the population so according to the statistics:

1. Most White women in the United States who are victims of rape are raped by White men.

2. Black men rape White women at a much lower percentage than chance would allow.

The statistics verify my statements.

You think that Joseph Graves majored in Black studies? He is an evolutionary biologist and he backed up his argument with credible sources. Go ahead and try to refute what he said.

That's proof of your racial prejudice.

I clearly proved that I did.

You both don't understand statistics and don't like them when they don't support your racist ideology.

Some of them are. Some of them are reliable. If I take a math test and get asked to, "Fill in the Blank, 2 + 2 = ______" and I answer "4" does it matter if that test is administered by a school or part of an unofficial online math test? Of course not. The answer is the same. Use your head. There are psychologists with the technical ability to construct and administer IQ tests who are making a profit offering to have these tests available on websites. They are using the exact same techniques and asking similar questions that you would find on a real standardized test. There are websites you can go to take online tests that help you study for real college exams. You can get an idea of what your IQ is from an online test if you find the right website.

 

Lol. You didn't do 'statistical analysis' to show the probability of interracial rape.

 

Ah now you are making assumptions. I am not a 'white supremacist' indeed it appears that North East asians are more intelligent than white people in General.

Racemixing? I'm in favour of it. I am no protector of 'whiteness' what I am is an opposer of 'blackness' and the special status that blacks demand , the 'affirmative action', the sh1t about 'cultural appropriation', the excuses for crime. Given that there is the added advantage of the fact that black men seem to take care of our chubby white girls and when its the other way around we whites get the slimmer black girls I call it fair trade.

As for liberals. I am generally in favour of liberal ideas. These are@ Socialized medicine, Rights for women, Gay marriage, Gun control, separation of church and state, Animal rights, consumer rights FREE SPEECH. What I dont agree with is special rights for black people.

No you dont understand statistics. You use rhetoric. Another thing I despise about 'blackness' you shout terms with a lot of hand waving but dont have the ability to actually understand the math involved.

Of course most rapes of white women are by white men as are most black women by black men . The FACT is that black men rape white women at a vastly higher rate than the reverse and statistically, all things being equal the number should be the same.

No I understand them very well.

OK Ill illustrate it with some questions. If you actually answer these questions without playing the usual obfuscation games. I doubt it because once 'anti racists' actually have to deal with logic and reason they run away shouting insults but lets see if you have this intelligence that you claim.

lets posit a city somewhere in the USA..it doesn't matter where.

In this city their are two ethnicities. lets call them the Greenies and the Purplies so we can avoid any link to any actual group.

There are 10 Greenies for every one Purply.

Criminals from both ethnicities steal cars. Indeed it has become such an epidemic that the police have rigged every car with a GPS device and catch every criminal who steals a car.

If 110 cars are stolen how many Greeny criminals and how many Purply criminals would there be assuming that only one criminal ever steal a car and that all neighbourhoods equally have cars and that there is no way to ID who actualy owns the car.

Simple question.





Some of them are. Some of them are reliable. If I take a math test and get asked to, "Fill in the Blank, 2 + 2 = ______" and I answer "4" does it matter if that test is administered by a school or part of an unofficial online math test? Of course not. The answer is the same. Use your head. There are psychologists with the technical ability to construct and administer IQ tests who are making a profit offering to have these tests available on websites. They are using the exact same techniques and asking similar questions that you would find on a real standardized test. There are websites you can go to take online tests that help you study for real college exams. You can get an idea of what your IQ is from an online test if you find the right website.[/QUOTE]

 

Ill answer a couple of these and then lets get to the bottom of the whole business of statistics.

I am actually Pro race mixing. I have no issue with intermarriage and indeed since black guys who date white women seem to like the fat ones then you are doing us a favour,

On most subjects I am firmly Liberal but anti radical.

Anyway on statistics. since you are so intelligent you will have no problem with answering.

There is a Town called Redsville. In redsville there are people with Green hair and people with red hair.

In this Town 90.9% of the inhabitants are 'Greenies; and 9.1% are purplies. ie there are 10 Greenies for Every purplie.

This town has a problem with people stealing bicycles so the cops put gps trackers in a whole lots of bikes and leave them for people to steal then they arrest the criminals.

Assuming no other variables, ie boith groups were equally criminally minded, if there are 110 cycles stolen how many were taken by purplies and how many taken by Greenies?

 

People have the unalienable human right to believe what they want to believe...whether the rest of us agree with it or not. Racism isn't the problem...the problem comes when that racism translates into actions that infringe upon the rights of others. I don't agree with racists and I don't agree with thought police...both have a right to think and express their wacky beliefs...neither has a right to force their wacky beliefs on others.

 

Yes, I should of done this. It was late at night and I was rushing.

Based on Census data the odds of a Black person encountering (or victimizing) a White person at random is 57% (O’Brian, 1987). If we use this figure to estimate the probability of a White woman being raped by a Black man in 2005 one would predict that out of 111,940 White women who were raped about 63,805 of those rapists would be expected to be Black men. However out of the number of White women reportedly raped that year only 33.6% were raped by Black men, about 37,611 Black-on-White rapes. That means that Black men raped White women about 59% less than random chance would predict.

You think that Whites are better than Blacks. This is something White Supremacists believe. While you may not believe Whites are intellectually supreme you clearly have a White Supremacist mentality when it comes to Whites vs. Blacks.

Where is your evidence that Black men are running around dating mostly fat chicks? While according too dating surveys fatter and less educated White women are more willing to date Black men than slimmer and more educated White women because they are more desperate to have a boyfriend that is not evidence that Black men are actually selecting these fat White women disproportionately. Black men who date White women are more likely to select the ones who are more open to interracial dating because of their political views. Liberal White women who happen to be more well educated than conservative White women are more likely to date Black men and the Black men who are both athletically fit or slim and intelligent most often go for the attractive and intelligent liberal White women.

Go to any college campus with a decent number of Black men and you will see this trend for yourself.

Who is advocating special rights for Black people? Certainly not me.

I do understand the math. You want to accuse me of not understanding statistics but what about your scientific illiteracy? You made a thread where you claimed that Blacks have higher testosterone than Whites and that this is a causal factor in disproportionate violent crime committed by Black people. I cited an email and quote from an evolutionary biologist showing with scientific sources and a critical analysis of the research you based your beliefs on that your claim was false. You accused this researcher of being a Black Studies major. I corrected you and I notice that you didn't address this in your latest response.

But statistically all things are not equal. For example Blacks encounter Whites randomly at a far higher rater than Whites encounter Blacks enabling Black criminals to victimize Whites at a far greater percentage. Whites are also more available to be victimized given that they are a larger percentage of the American population. While Black men rape White women disproportionately (13% of the population and 33.6% of rapes, due to Socioeconomic factors) they do so at a lesser rate than random chance would predict.

I'm not going to address your silly questions about the Greenies and Purplies because you ignored my arguments about race and testosterone and my point about online IQ tests.

Let's stick to the statistical facts and the scientific arguments.

 

You need to look closer at the data. That data only refers to people from China, Japan, and maybe Korea. Southeast Asia has low average IQs as do south Asians in general. And Asian females in the US have approximately 2x the STD rate of white females.

One thing that gets old is that people with dating habits such as yourself do is blame your own kind and trash them for your lack of success among them. It's a cop out. If you're as broke as a joke as you say, then you certainly have no place demanding primo ass. Asians and other non-white groups are known to have lower standards in dating and are willing to take the broke, obese, etc.

 

There is no such "trend." The past 6 years until last summer I was a regular at the Auraria Campus in downtown Denver. Such couples were actually a very small minority. Now if you go into poorer, more non-white parts of Denver what you see are a few white females with black males who are nearly all morbidly obese and a small smattering of whigger males with droopy drawers and bad acne or morbid obesity with black females.

Posting pictures that are exceptions to the norm do not disqualify the norm.

 

Why you can't have an honest or civil conversation with most that think Muslim or Illegal Alien are races.

 

Those are your personal observations. Of course interracial relationships are the minority however they are statistically on the rise.



Statistics also show that Liberal White women are more open to dating Black men than Conservative White women.

People are statistically more likely to choose a partner that is like them in education, political ideology, physical attractiveness etc.

The Black men who are more well educated and physically fit are hooking up more often with the White women who are educated, physically fit and liberal.


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You just gave a personal observation as evidence: College campuses.

Liberals being self-loathing. I don't take issue with your statement here at all. Being a ******* is commonly a key component for if nothing else, a white person even seeking friendship with blacks (let alone romance) means that they have to be willing to accept collective racial blame for black failure.

Yes they are which is why few marry out. Another important factor is shared culture as well.

The body of studies on interracial marriage show that such marriages are 1) less likely to last as long as non-mixed marriages, and 2) are more likely to end in divorce. Refer to Interracial Marriage and Marital Instability. That doesn't count health and emotional challenged that mixed kids face.

You don't seem to understand that you just insulted black women and also indirectly admitted the racial discrimination going on within the black community and that black men who have made a level of success prefer not being with black women - including those who have accomplished a level of success.

As much as you like posting pictures of attractive models kissing, you are fully aware that few such mixed couples are actually like that.

 

And we only have your word that these were your observations on campus. While I agree that interracial marriages are rare it is not true that Black men are only getting fat White women.

Liberals are less racist and more highly educated than Conservatives.

Few people marry out because they are mostly around people like them. Interracial marriages have their problems including societal approve which affects the marriage and the life of the children and explains the higher divorce rates. As far as the health of mixed-race children are you suggesting that they are somehow less genetically fit? Because that is not true.

I did not insult Black women or make any suggestion that successful Black men prefer not being with Black women. Most Black men date Black women. I simply said that athletically fit and well educated Black men who date interracially more often date White women or are their intellectual and physical counterparts (e.g. physically fit, beautiful and smart). This is what one would predict if you look at statistics on dating preferences. The idea that Black men are only getting the least desirable of White women is a lie. White Supremacists would not be so angry about Black men being with White women if this was true.

 

Unattractive fat white women are more likely to date blacks than attractive white women. I speculate this having to do with blacks being unattractive compared to whites.

 

I only have your word of your observations on campus, and I never said they are "only getting fat white women."

Blacks and Latinos are heavily liberal and have high dropout rates, thus the idea that liberals are more educated is laughable.

You also assume that someone not dating those outside their race is necessarily due to racism.

LOL...

Uhm, few people marry out because people prefer to date those most like them, including in background. Did you miss that in your college psych classes, too?

Blaming society for the lack of compatibility for people from radically different cultural backgrounds doesn't cover it, regardless of how good it looks to you on paper. Studies have shown that people who marry those most like themselves have longer marriages.

Actually you did. You spoke about successful black men going straight to white poontang. You said more educated black men who are fit are hooking up with more white women who are so. The implication is that they are preferring the company of white women once they become successful. Actually there is truth in this and we see it play out among black athletes and celebrities as well. Interracial dating rates of successful blacks are far higher than middle or lower-class blacks. So it would seem clearly that once blacks reach a level of success, they turn their backs on their own.

I don't believe for a minute that you haven't noted that most blacks with white females are getting buckets-o-lard.

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It's because the fat white girls aren't wanted by white men.

 

East Asia includes China, Korea, and Japan. Southeast Asia includes countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, etc.

As for STD's, you just have to be slightly more careful. Again, I'm not talking about sex tourism. I'm simply referring to dating normal Chinese women who are well adjusted members of their society.

That highly attractive white American women are indeed harder to get, for everyone, is a fact. There simply aren't that many attractive women in America, due to obesity. 36% of women basically don't exist. sexually. Given the different weights (relative importance) ascribed to being overweight, go ahead and say half that number of overweight/obese men are out of the market. Now, you still have more men chasing far fewer women. It takes a male who is significantly above-average to date an attractive woman in America. When I was dating here, I was above average in looks, social skills, and pretty solid in achievement, and I had to put in a substantial amount of effort if I didn't want to dumpster dive.This is not simply a problem for "loser males," but is a problem for at least 75% of males. My point is that in Asia, you will get the top quality women and put in virtually no effort. I have issues at the moment, which I've discussed in other threads (being broke sucks), but my track record in the states is quite good. The number of elite women in both regions, as a percentage, is about the same, but the 5-8 range is far more abundant in Asia than it is in America.

The point is that, for ALL American males, dating Asian women is the more rational approach, if you can speak another language and have easy access. In America, I can't tell you how many times I've seen awesome guys with mediocre, or even below average, women.

Finally, American women have the attitude problems, partially because of how we (Americans) are now raised and partially due to growing up as scarce commodities. Attractive American women have more sexual power than women anywhere else on the globe, so this will naturally have consequences that affect one's attitude. Hell, after Asia, my personality around women totally changed. I can only imagine how that kind of environment affects a woman over a period of many years.

 

I knew you would refuse to answer the question. You are fundamentally dishonest. You knew I would expose either your mathematiocal ignorance or that you were lying about statistics.

 

It's not necessary to answer those questions when I have provided you with the statistical facts that back up my argument. Why didn't you respond to them? Why didn't you respond to the testosterone or online IQ test arguments? I'm giving you a taste of your own medicine. If you can pick and choose what to respond to so can I.

 

No, You are dishonest. You knew I would prove you to be a liar.

 

I didn't lie about anything. I clearly showed you statistics that support my arguments on interracial rape.

 

The best defense against stupidity is, to act like you agree with a stupid person. That way, if you have the the time to listen to a stupid person you will fully realize the depth of their stupidity.
The second faze, is to see them before they see you and try to make sure not to become their next victim.
Being a victim of these parasites could mean two things. 1. A babble fest by someone that you would never give your address to. Or Possibly death.

 

No. You are dishonest to a core. You have proved that you refuse to even address statistics. If you were not you would answer my questions...you won't.

I knew you would refuse, Its because you are a liar