Will gays FINALLY start to condemn religion after Orlando Islamic gay slaughter?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Question: after Orlando religiously-inspired slaughter, finally, FINALLY, will gay leaders like Teresa Sparks condemn religions that say to kill, yes, KILL, gays like The Bible and Islam say to do!? WHAT WILL IT TAKE!? How many more innocent people must die?

    She condemns THE MESSENGER, Pamela Geller, but never religion! Incredible: http://pamelageller.com/2013/03/hea...-on-afdi-gay-ads-its-easier-to-get-insu.html/

    Me, I think people are too afraid to give up on the fantasy of "surviving their own deaths", so they will continue to not dare condemn religions (their ticket to an "after-life") - and more deaths like Orlando will continue. Shame on them for letting their fear overcome their compassion towards innocent people. How can they live with themselves?

    What about you?
     
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    No. They'll blame guns.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You are likely correct.
    You blame religion, like I do?
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of LGBTQ people condemn religion now.

    Plenty practice religion now as well.

    Should the non-practicers condemn the practicers?
     
  5. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Let's finally get people to blame religion for the hatred of gays, and that way those 20 people's lives will not have been taken completely in vain.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    People are violent.

    With religion.

    Without it.

    Violent.

    Very, very violent.

    The End
     
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    NONSENSE!!
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Do you know that none of the 20 were religious?
     
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    Surely a better way would be for religions to say "love gays", instead of saying to kill them, no? Yes, violence will continue, but it would of course be one great step in the right direction.
    Do you condemn all religions that say to kill innocent people (gays) - like Jesus/Bible and Mohammad/Islam?

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    That wouldn't matter, they died because Mohammad said to kill gays, pure and simple.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Uhhhhhh.

    Were you seeking any kind of serious discussion, or...?
     
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    Well they aren't now.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    People can believe what they want, preach what they want, refrain from belief.

    Demanding that others do as YOU see fit won't prevent violence.

    In fact, it strikes me as controlling at best. Perhaps fascist.
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Hehe, good point. In the past, I myself have complained about posts like I just made.

    Ok, if "Plenty of LGBTQ people condemn religion now" I sure haven't seen it in major main-stream media outlets. Sure they'll condemn bigots, but they won't condemn the underlying cause of said bigotry - religious texts that say to hate gays, such as the Bible/Islamic texts. Let's see Ellen D. burn a Bible on her show.
     
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    Not interested in serious discussion.

    Duly noted.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, people can believe in Nazism, believe in the Bible, or believe whatever they want. I've never said to make religions illegal, as I believe in freedom too much.
    You do agree that the Bible/Islam/Jesus/Mohammad got it DEAD WRONG regarding treatment of gays, right? If so, it's highly unlikely that they were "prophets of god" like they self-servingly claim.
     
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    We dont know the gunmans story yet, but we do know that muslims kill homosexuals. It would seem to follow that the homosexual community would be totally against Obama importing muslims.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is only one religion that says kill gays the others say love them

    just stop trying to make an equivalence with all religions
     
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    You have NOT read the Bible then!

    I think even the Hindu texts are against gays.
     
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    If you had Jesus' super-powers, would you take a mere 3 minutes out of your busy schedule of creating "acts of god" (such as deadly tornadoes, deadly floods, deadly tsunamis, etc.) and come down and tell the world that the Islamic texts are wrong where it says to kill gays? I would, because I care about humanity.

    What about you, TRFjr, would you do that if you had his all-powerful magic at your disposal?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and where in the bible did Jesus say how to treat gays? and once again you absurdity of trying to equate Christianity to Islam is just dishonest SJW bull crap
     
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    And more importantly, more lastingly, against religions that teach hatred of gays like Islam/Jesus/Bible.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    look I never claimed I had the answer and that you should believe in any religion but I'm sick of your bull crap trying to make some kind of dishonest equivalence of Christianity and Islam they are just out right lies that you have nothing to back any of your lies up with
     
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    The Bible is CHOCK FULL of hatred for gays!! All the Abrahamic faiths are - they teach hatred, hatred, and more hatred. I'm not sure which is worse, teaching to kill innocent gays or that dashing innocent babies against rocks makes one "blessed", and "happy".

    New Living Translation
    "Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!" - Psalm 137:9

    The same brainiacs that brought us the above verse also brought us verses that say to slaughter gays. Shame. Shame on Christians for advancing a book like that.

    Jesus, have you no shame? He won't answer because he's not even real, just a legend.

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    You couldn't be more wrong:
    Number of Cruel or Violent Passages:
    Bible: 1321
    Quran: 532

    Clearly the Bible isn't just worse than Islam, it's about 700 cruel/violent passages worse than Islam! ISLAM!

    I couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams staying in a religion that approves of far far more cruelty and violent than even.....Islam! Too bad Jesus was not a non-violent man (that violent man allegedly said "Don't imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth, I came not to bring peace, but a sword." NLT Mt 10:34) or they obviously would not, today, give their children such a cruelty/violence-approving book. Obviously. One reason I left Jesus/Moses/Yahweh/Bible.

    Obviously Modern Secular Humanism is an oasis in a sea of cruelty/violence.

    http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/06/which-is-more-violent-bible-or-quran.html
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    never claimed there wasn't any controversial passages in the bible but until you can show me any Christian out there taking that passage and using it to justify smashing babies against rocks you fail

    it isn't what the bible or the Koran says it is what the believers of either faith interpret and uses what either of those books say
    and right now Muslims are using the

    and right now it is Islam throwing gays off roofs it is Islam chopping off heads and burning people alive not Christianity
     

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