Will immigration really create more jobs?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some people have tried to argue that immigration will add more people and create more jobs.

    But won't those be lower paying jobs?
     
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    Anytime you add population, you will also create the needs for more goods and services and that will translate to increased need for labor. The problem comes from the fact that immigration adds to very specific areas of the labor pool mostly at the lower end. This skews the labor supply increasing the supply of labor and lowering wages according to supply and demand. This is why we have experience such a dramatic increase in homelessness. People displaced from lower end employment by immigrants who are able or willing to work for less compensation, are unable in many cases to compete and end up on the streets.
    This is also the reason we see such a wide disparity between labor class jobs and management. Illegal immigration puts pressure on the lower end of the labor spectrum while positions requiring a degree are really not affected.
    So yes, jobs are created with an increase in population, but when that increase in population in concentrated at the low end of the employment spectrum, it causes distress in the wages of lower income workers.
     
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    Poorer, and less ambitious. Many have replaced much of their real lives, with virtual reality. It really does not take a lot of spending to sit in front of a monitor or TV screen all day.
     
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    This is that part of the story where the left tells us we need to import more low skill non-english speakers for jobs at the same time they tell us those jobs are going away.
     
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    Why not argue what the status of the US would be today if the US did not have immigrants? You could basically erase 80% of all economic gains during the past 125 years. The US has had immigrants since day 1 and look how things turned out? Do you think the hundreds of thousands of green card immigrants working in the US are 'lower paying' jobs? Immigrants come in all shapes and sizes, always have been, and always will be. When it comes to no work skills to low work skills type of work, there are obvious reasons why most of this work is lower paying...so what?
     
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    Depends who the immigrants are and whether the jobs and workers move upstream
     
  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And it depends exactly what the demand curve in the economy looks like; if there's still a demand for all those additional workers without lowering the labor price point too much.

    You can't even look at this with country-wide statistics as a whole because a good part of this has to do with cost of living in specific regions. (i.e. the issue isn't they can't can't find high skilled workers to work for $55,000 a year, the issue is they can't find those workers willing to move to very high cost of living areas for $55,000 a year, so they bring in immigrant workers to do it)
     
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