Will the GOP Soon Begin to Reject Trumpery?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump's attempt to make the US a sanctuary nation for his murderous cronies may be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back - especially if it coincides with his following the orders of ideological media entertainers rather than Republican legislators and shuts down government again because Congress has persisted for over two years in refusing to give him $5.7 billion for his wall that he had promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want.

    Who do you expect will cave - Trump or the GOP?

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    Will Democrats knock off the McCarthyism, and ted baiting since it turned out to be a nothing burger?
     
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    I have no idea why you need to revert to a Republican Senator of yore's paranoid political witch hunts.

    Do you think today's Republican leadership will force Trump to stop providing legal sanctuary to his murderous cronies?

    Do you think he'll have another tantrump and shut down the government again because Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress for two years, refused to give him $5.7 billion of US taxpayer money for a wall that he had repeatedly promised that Mexico would pay for that most Americans do not want?

    Do you think anyone bought his fake "duct-taped women!" and "prayer rugs!" nonsense?
     
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    Trump is incapable of testifying in the Mueller probe!

    Who is saying that? Trump's former defense lawyer, John Dowd.

    He said, "the president would become confused and make a false statement."

    “In my questioning him or talking to him, you know, first question, easy. Second question, easy. Third question, he wasn’t sure. And he doesn’t like being unsure. So he’ll guess,” Dowd said of his interactions with Trump. “There’s your trap, right there. It’s not whether he lies or not. . . . It’s not a matter of integrity. It’s overload.”

    Dowd is trying to provide a pathetic excuse for Trump's lying. The fact of the matter is, according to Trump's own lawyer, Trump is incapable of telling the truth. That is why he won't be testifying.

    Another Trump lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has the same concerns about Trump's lying. He warned about Mueller’s intentions in questioning the President. “What they’re really trying to do is trap him into perjury, and we’re not suckers.” Giuliani also said, "Truth isn't truth."

    Imagine that. Two of Trump's lawyers are telling us our President can't tell the truth.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think the GOP will win in the end. I have always believed that they will abandon Trump the second his approval ratings fall under 30.

    Seems to me that's when his support is reduced to his core White Supremacist base. Which came out of the closet because of him, but will never vote Republican in the future anyway.
     
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    Succinct, concise, comprehensive, and insightful.

    I think we have an epitaph! - and a presidential biography sans the minutia!
     
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    Those who hail him as their "Emperor God!" will be the most diehard, but isolated pockets will continue to fester.
     
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    The hard right can't afford to ditch Trump.
     
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    Evangelicals debased themselves by their embrace of an amoral degenerate whose habitual skanky, egomaniacal ways were pointedly expressed when he brayed that his celebrity licensed him to grab women by their genitals if he so fancied. Normally, such a depraved boast would have triggered their self-righteous outrage, but their eagerness to follow a false god exposed their hypocrisy. Under the guise of a cloying religiosity, they are worshippers of crass political expediency.

    Fiscal responsibility had been a stalwart bulwark of conservatism before the self-proclaimed "King of Debt" promoted irresponsible prodigality in bloating the nation's indebtedness for a short-term fling. Binging on a credit card is a ready option for most, but rational folks understand the piper must eventually be paid.

    Now, he is pushing an expansion of executive power and Big Government intrusion in the seizure of the private property of Americans, all for a campaign gimmick - a "big, beautiful wall" that he repeatedly vowed Mexico would pay for - contrived by a reality-tv performer with no experience or expertise in border security.

    There was a time when Republicans espoused principle and valued self-respect.

    The RINOs of Trumpery have vanquished all that.

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    Trump's former defense lawyer, John Dowd: ... "the president would become confused and make a false statement."

    It's more likely the case that Don's confusion causes him to accidentally tell the truth since lying is his natural state of being.
     
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    I agree - the GOP will distance themselves from Trump. And, as well as your approval ratings reasoning, I would add timing. As 2020 approaches, those up for election understand the 'what have you don't for me lately' mindset of voters. While his base will defend him to the end, poll numbers are showing less and less interest in the wall and national emergency declaration - and supporting Trump on that will have a very negative effect on their own voting support.
     
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    He was incapable of straight talk and honesty when declaring his national emergency! He can't handle reporters! Can you imagine him in front of Mueller???
     
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    The wall is becoming a meh value for Trump.
     
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    What you describe is what happened to Joe McCarthy. His core supporters were a Trump-like "cult". And they created a "bubble' that simply burst as most just grew tired of him.
     
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    After two years that Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress, kept putting Cry Baby Donny off, his big juju, a $5.7 billion wall that he would make Mexico pay for and that most Americans do not want, a campaign gimmick by a reality-tv performer with no experience or expertise in border security, suddenly becomes an "EMERGENCY!"?

    "So, with illegal immigration numbers down and desperate families seeking for border
    patrols rather than trying to elude them, how urgent an 'EMERGENCY!' is it, Tubby?"

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    "I could do the wall over a longer period of time.
    I didn’t need to do this, but I’d rather do it much faster.
    I just want to get it done faster!”




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    “The goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam
    the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years.”
     
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    I think signing that budget bill was the end, to be honest. He's lost Coulter, who is now saying he's an idiot.

    I have to agree. It was a huge poo sandwich and he threw his base away when he signed it.
     
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    "Will the GOP Soon Begin to Reject Trumpery?"

    the GOP already rejects Trumpery, they just feel they have no choice now but to finish the ride, it's like being on a roller-coaster, no choice but to finish the ride
     
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    Putin pulled one over on us... he helped give us Trump...

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    Trump will be rejected in the primaries
     
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    Dems are hopping he is not, we hope republicans dumb enough to run him again, but you could be right
     
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    The Dems know that anyone of the 23 candidates can win solidly in the EV and the PV against Trump.
     
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    yep, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't
     
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    If they can find somebody who actually wants to have a wall, it's possible. It's just that after Trump lied about a wall, I am guessing it's all over. Republicans sure the hell can't trust their politicians.

    I do think that border security is going to be one of the key issues with republicans in 2020, and Trump really can't run on that now. He wasted his first year by not doing anything about it, despite both houses being run by republicans. His second year is now gone, and he has nothing. The only problem is, who the hell is going to be believed now?

    Trump is going to have to steer every conversation away from "build the wall" to something he's actually done, which shouldn't be hard, but he was elected to build the wall. Something he just refuses to do.

    Lefties can talk smack now, and I don't begrudge them for that. It's the same thing all over the world. The Brits had a referendum to leave the EU, and now they aren't. Americans won an election to build a wall, and now we aren't. The Koreans, the Japanese, the Germans, the French... all want border security and nothing is going to ever happen about that.

    Maybe what Americans need to do is copy the yellow vests, but instead of being armed with nothing but health and safety vests, we might be able to bring a bit more to the table...
     
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    you do know most voters, republicans included could care less about Trump's wall
     
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    Yes, I get that. There are tons of "Americans" who don't care about even having a country. It's one of the reasons I and my fellow conservatives are mostly just bone tired of it all. We tried, we won, but we really lost.

    It was the same story with the tea party. We "won" and got a bunch of guys elected who were supposed to do something about the national debt. We won, but in the end we lost.
     
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