Will the Great Barrier Reef survive?

Okey dokey pokey

 

Excellent post, good on you !!!!!

 

This sheds light on coral and water temperature

This comes to us from the Galapagos islands.

Compare to water temperature at the Great Barrier Reef

Since the Great Barrier Reef is extremely long, it is much more difficult

I find temperatures vary about 5 degrees F to 9 degrees F

Those Australians suck when it comes to controlling climate and ocean temperatures.

http://data.aims.gov.au/aimsrtds/yearlytrends.xhtml

 

Doing better than you Americans it seems
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/fl-coral-dying-20160424-story.html

 

I see, your reefs are, according to you dying, but none of it is your fault. And now you want to move the goal posts.

 

Climate change is not a local issue

It is a global issue and I just proved it is world wide

 

Climate change is the issue of the global left wing parties.

This is where you find danger to reefs.

http://www.dw.com/en/bombing-coral-to-catch-fish/av-38528208

 

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If we can create energy from other than fossil or nuc sources, why not? Don't stay in yesteryear.....
We need oil for better things than burning it...
If we all try to minimize our carbon footprint, we might have a chance. Might, that is.....
Looks like the lefties are the only ones using their brains....
Regards

 

Oil serves its purpose in the crust of the earth....how about lubrication?? I mean, I don't know but surely it plays an important part somewhere there!

 

Tanzania is not anywhere near the Great Barrier Reef

 

The Chagos Archipelago reef saw massive die off in the 90's due to rising sea temperatures and has rebounded magnificently in a few decades since. What is going on in the Great Barrier reef isn't climate change. Chagos is largely isolated from human impacts like over fishing and chemical runoff. When it dies back due to unseasonable warm water, it recovers.

Why should the whole world stop using fossil fuels to save a reef when Australia won't do the only thing that can save it---keep people the hell away from it.

 

Chemical run off is not the problem where the die off is - there is not much up on Cape York to cause chemical poisoning neither is over fishing that area is nearly all marine park

BTW Chagos has had further bleaching events

After the 2015 global bleaching event occurred, we knew that the Chagos Archipelago had been affected, but it was only during our 2016 survey that we found the bleaching had been as bad as it was in 1997/98.


A degraded reef in Chagos, pictured in April 2016.
We were struck by the stark increase in dead coral, mostly the branching Acropora which form wide table-like structures, similar to a canopy, over large portions of the reef. We found that on reefs dominated by this coral type, more than 50% of the live coral which was present in 2015 has died in shallow areas.

http://theconversation.com/does-a-new-era-of-bleaching-beckon-for-indian-ocean-coral-reefs-73938

 

I was already aware of this report about this one area of Chagos. It lost 90% of its coral in the 90's and recovered and will again because it has minimal human contacts and abundant sea life. It is a highly protected marine reserve and this was article you posted involves observations in a small portion of it. Unfortunately, most people paint the relationship between coral and other sea life as a one way street--"The coral dies and fish lose habitat and die off too." In reality, the coral needs the fish as much as the fish need the coral. The land in Chagos is due to fish eating coral and crapping out everything but the soft tissue. Its reef also has a multitude of coral species besides this one that died off in a shallow water area.

Anyway, Australia won't learn from Florida's mistakes I see. While you are at it, ignore your own government's research that removal of predator fish by commercial and sport fishermen is significantly altering the make up of marine life along the reef. There is more coral in other places, so be it.

 

The Great Barrier Reef is the best managed in the world

So mouthing off about us not doing enough while electing the worst disaster of a president in modern history

Well......

 

LOL it is far from being the "best managed" in the world. If it were, it wouldn't being dying off. You just refuse to acknowledge that it isn't "global warming" killing it because you would rather have the tourist trap than a healthy reef.

 

That is the point it is no over fishing because it is a declared marine park. There is no large scale pollution run off because the area affected lies off the tip of Cape York. So what do you THINK we are doing wrong?

 

Around far north QLD if you are in a green zone and your gear is set up with even a prawn or lure on it you cop a significant fine. It doesn't matter if you were just cruising through. Fisheries are constantly monitoring these parts!

 

I was gobsmacked that they would rather blame us for the degradation than blame global warming

Sheeesh!

 

Pretending things like the Long Term Sustainability Plan has achieved already something it hasn't even begun to achieve to keep UNESCO off your case is wrong. Of course they are fighting actually protecting the GBR the way the UK does Chagos because that tourism is more important to Australia than actually protecting the reef as I have stated before. Hell, Reef 2050 wasn't even funded out of the gate to meet its own benchmarks. It is all window dressing.

 

Why would anyone go to Australia and not want to see the reef? To go the Outback and get killed by ....well...everything that moves?

 

They wouldn't, which is why they refuse to close it to protect it. No worries though, the University of Sidney is mapping it with the goal of 3D printing a fake reef to replace the one they are killing. They will be one of these away from having a proper aquarium going:

 

Starfish Eating Australia's Great Barrier Reef...

Starfish Eating Australia's Great Barrier Reef Alarm Scientists
January 04, 2018 — A major outbreak of coral-eating crown-of-thorns starfish has been found munching Australia's world heritage-listed Great Barrier Reef, scientists said Friday, prompting the government to begin culling the spiky marine animals.

 

I am really stunned that no government (at least it feels like it) in the western world has any interest in mother nature.
All it is about is job growth. And more job growth, and more and so on and so on.....
And lower taxes for cooperatives, to the brink of paying nothing (which we also all know many of them do - pay nothing).
As if we could survive without a proper functioning nature around us.
In that respect I think that those on the right side of the fence are even more disinterested to get it right for our common future (mother nature and us).
Hope you all have a great Sunday, go spend time outside as long as you can enjoy it.....
Regards

 

m2catter wrote: go spend time outside as long as you can enjoy it.....

Is too cold outside.